823: Mormon Leaders and Inappropriate Interviews Regarding Sexuality Pt. 3

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2017

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Beginning our series on Mormon leaders and inappropriate interviews regarding sexuality, we provide 6 mini-interviews with Mormon Stories listeners who share their experiences discussing sexual matters with LDS leaders. A new petition created by past guest Sam Young seeks to provoke conversation and change around this subject.

From the petition:

“For decades, it has been common practice for Bishops, Bishopric Counselors, Stake Presidents, and Stake President Counselors to pose questions of a sexual nature to children. There are reports of this happening to children as young as age 8. These questions are being asked by an older man, all alone with the child, behind closed doors and often without the knowledge or permission of the parents. Almost universally, these men have no comprehensive training.

Here is a list of potential harm. All the risks below are actual consequences that have been experienced from sexual interviews with LDS children.

1. Suicide.
2. Attempted suicide.
3. Suicidal ideation.
4. Inappropriate shame and guilt.
5. Childhood filled with self loathing.
6. Adulthood filled with self loathing.
7. Normalizing children to sexual questions by adult men. (Grooming)
8. Sexual abuse. (Pedophilia)
9. Impaired sexual relations after marriage.
10. Years of recovery from childhood shaming. Often lasting decades.”

Sam Young‘s petition can be found here if you want to sign: http://protectldschildren.org

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Part 1: Interview with Paul and Ann

Part 2: Interview with Anna, Tyler, and Lara

Part 3: Maile, Ryan, and Ryan

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0:00.0	Mormon Stories is a production of the Open Stories Foundation and relies solely upon the support of people like you, its listeners.
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0:30.0	Thanks for your support.
0:32.0	Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host John the Lynn. It is November 8th, 2017 and we are relentlessly tackling this issue of inappropriate interviews with Mormon leaders about matters of sexuality.
1:00.0	We've been wanting to do this for a long time but the impetus I'm happy to say is my former colleague from Houston, Sam Young, Bishop Sam Young who decided to start a petition to petition the Mormon Church to no longer allow 12 year old girls or 12 year old boys to sit alone with grown men.
1:28.0	It being grilled about their masturbation habits or pornography use or sexuality because it's harmful and damaging.
1:38.0	We're super grateful to Sam for Bishop Sam for leading the charge on this. We want to encourage everybody to sign the petition.
1:49.0	But we've already interviewed four different people about their stories and we are now interviewing a fifth.
1:59.0	These are going to just be stories about people's interviews with Mormon Bishop's mission president, stake president on matters of sexuality.
2:08.0	And it's our first couple to join us together.
2:13.0	We have Miley and Ryan Wait who are using their real full names and their using video.
2:22.0	So we're really that's really courageous and bold. So I want to welcome you both to Mormon Stories podcast. Thanks for joining us.
2:30.0	The only courageous thing about it is that we don't look our best and we're in a ugly basement right now.
2:37.0	That makes the bar courageous.
2:40.0	But thanks for having us on.
2:43.0	Yeah, thank you so much.
2:44.0	We actually both, you know, we both have left the church and asked a story for another time.
2:51.0	But there's definitely something objectively that we feel strongly about with the church that we feel not from a doctrine standpoint that would be better improved with the church would be the interviews with Bishop's with minors and appropriately talking about sexual intimacy.
3:06.0	So we definitely appreciate your endeavor and capturing the stories and helping you know move this this petition along.
3:16.0	I'm super honored. It's my pleasure. And it's only possible because people like you are willing to be courageous and talk about difficult things right.
3:25.0	This is an easy stuff to talk about right.
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