‘We needed to change the equation,’ Sen. Kaine says on his vote to end shutdown
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🗓️ 10 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | And as Lisa mentioned, the vote to end the shutdown has divided Senate Democrats. |
| 0:05.2 | Tonight we'll get two views. |
| 0:07.1 | I spoke earlier this afternoon with Virginia Senator Tim Kane. |
| 0:10.5 | He's among those voting in favor of the deal to end the stalemate. |
| 0:15.0 | Senator Tim Kane, welcome back to the News Hour. |
| 0:17.1 | Great to be with you. |
| 0:18.2 | So why deliver your vote to end the shutdown at the very moment |
| 0:22.1 | many Democrats believe they're winning the politics of this fight? Even President Trump |
| 0:26.6 | acknowledged the other day that Republicans, as he put it, were getting politically killed |
| 0:31.3 | over this shutdown. Why give up what many Democrats believed to be the moral and strategic |
| 0:36.9 | advantage and make a deal |
| 0:38.2 | now? |
| 0:39.2 | Well, Jeff, politics is one thing, but I represent eight and a half million Virginians, |
| 0:43.8 | and the vote that I cast was very good for them. |
| 0:47.0 | When we got into this shutdown, it was because President Trump ordered the Republicans |
| 0:51.2 | to write a bill without us and then refuse to engage. |
| 0:55.0 | And when presidents don't engage, you get into a shutdown. |
| 0:58.0 | During October, I was very focused on the Virginia elections, |
| 1:02.0 | and I was talking to the negotiators about my particular issue. |
| 1:06.0 | I wanted protection for federal employees. |
| 1:09.0 | After we delivered a big win in Virginia last Tuesday night, |
| 1:12.6 | President Trump had a breakfast the next morning and realized this shutdown was hurting him, |
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