‘Soldiers and Kings’ author Jason De León on exploring the world of human smuggling
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🗓️ 18 March 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Tonight, a different lens on the tension at the U.S.-Mexico border, one that applies deep-dive anthropology and in-the-dirt archaeology to learn more about migration. |
| 0:10.0 | Senior arts correspondent Jeffrey Brown talks to a national book award-winning author whose work explores the clandestine world of human smuggling. |
| 0:19.0 | The report is for our arts and culture series, Canvas. |
| 0:21.6 | We're pretty far north. |
| 0:24.6 | At this point, we're close enough that people are getting ready to get picked up. |
| 0:28.6 | And so that's why you're starting to see lots of clothes and other items being left behind. |
| 0:31.6 | It's a different approach to seeing and understanding migration at the U.S. border. |
| 0:36.6 | Through the stuff, the things they carried |
| 0:39.5 | that offer clues to the people and the paths they've taken. It's been an ongoing focus of |
| 0:45.3 | anthropologist Jason DeLeon, captured in the 2019 documentary Border South. Every one of these things |
| 0:54.0 | tells a story. |
| 0:55.0 | This past December, De Leon, a professor at UCLA and director of the Cotson Institute of |
| 1:01.0 | Archaeology, showed us some of his archaeological finds, now collected in his lab. |
| 1:07.0 | Clothing, shoes, water bottles, part of his undocumented migration project. |
| 1:12.6 | Why collect this stuff? I mean, and why, how is archive it? |
| 1:16.6 | Yeah. |
| 1:17.6 | Why? |
| 1:18.6 | This is archaeology. |
| 1:19.6 | I mean, people go, oh, well, this is garbage. This is trash. |
| 1:21.6 | And I said, well, you know, what do you think archaeologists study? |
| 1:25.6 | So I think these objects can tell a lot of different stories and really connect us, I think, |
| 1:30.8 | to this thing that happens far away, that happens in, you know, in the middle of nowhere. |
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