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‘Soldiers and Kings’ author Jason De León on exploring the world of human smuggling

PBS News Hour - Segments

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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An archaeologist is providing a different lens on the tension at the southern U.S. border, one that applies deep-dive anthropology to learn more about migration. Senior arts correspondent Jeffrey Brown spoke with National Book Award-winning author Jason De León, whose work explores the clandestine world of human smuggling, for our arts and culture series, CANVAS. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

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Tonight, a different lens on the tension at the U.S.-Mexico border, one that applies deep-dive anthropology and in-the-dirt archaeology to learn more about migration.

0:10.0

Senior arts correspondent Jeffrey Brown talks to a national book award-winning author whose work explores the clandestine world of human smuggling.

0:19.0

The report is for our arts and culture series, Canvas.

0:21.6

We're pretty far north.

0:24.6

At this point, we're close enough that people are getting ready to get picked up.

0:28.6

And so that's why you're starting to see lots of clothes and other items being left behind.

0:31.6

It's a different approach to seeing and understanding migration at the U.S. border.

0:36.6

Through the stuff, the things they carried

0:39.5

that offer clues to the people and the paths they've taken. It's been an ongoing focus of

0:45.3

anthropologist Jason DeLeon, captured in the 2019 documentary Border South. Every one of these things

0:54.0

tells a story.

0:55.0

This past December, De Leon, a professor at UCLA and director of the Cotson Institute of

1:01.0

Archaeology, showed us some of his archaeological finds, now collected in his lab.

1:07.0

Clothing, shoes, water bottles, part of his undocumented migration project.

1:12.6

Why collect this stuff? I mean, and why, how is archive it?

1:16.6

Yeah.

1:17.6

Why?

1:18.6

This is archaeology.

1:19.6

I mean, people go, oh, well, this is garbage. This is trash.

1:21.6

And I said, well, you know, what do you think archaeologists study?

1:25.6

So I think these objects can tell a lot of different stories and really connect us, I think,

1:30.8

to this thing that happens far away, that happens in, you know, in the middle of nowhere.

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