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People I (Mostly) Admire

82. Is This the Future of High School?

People I (Mostly) Admire

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Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Khan Academy founder Sal Khan returns to share his vision for a new way to learn — and the conversation inspires Steve to make a big announcement.

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0:00.0

Today, I welcome Sal Khan back to the show. I met Sal for the first time when he came

0:10.4

on this podcast in the spring of 2021. We talked then about Khan Academy and the small experimental

0:16.4

school, the Khan Lab School he started. I'm excited to talk today with Sal, but his

0:21.6

latest ambitious endeavor, the launching of the Khan World School. The young people that

0:28.0

we're starting to see come through the door for the Khan World School, these are going to be

0:32.7

the kids who are going to change the world. Welcome to people I mostly admire with Steve Levitt.

0:41.7

When I launched this podcast, I dreamed that it would lead not just to interesting conversations,

0:47.1

but also to collaborations with my guests that might make the world a better place,

0:51.8

and it's actually happening. Because of that initial podcast interview,

0:55.9

I and my team at the University of Chicago are heavily involved in creating the curriculum

1:00.0

for the Khan World School. But the path to collaboration was not always smooth.

1:12.4

Sal, it's so great to have you back for a second appearance on the show. We've done some double

1:17.9

episodes where we do one interview and turn into two shows, but you are the first to make a return

1:22.8

visit. So I feel very honored to have you and that's fine. I'm honored to be in this spot.

1:26.8

Thanks for having me, Steve. Okay, so when you came on the show the first time, listeners found

1:32.0

your message inspirational. We received about 10 times as many listener emails as we usually get,

1:38.8

and most of them wanted to know how they could get their kids into the Khan Lab School. And I wasn't

1:45.4

surprised by that because I also wanted to get my kids into your school if you remember. And so

1:51.2

just a few days after the episode came out back in April 2021, I sent you an email outlining

1:57.9

an ambitious plan in which we, you and me, could collaborate to expand your Khan Lab School from

2:03.8

its current single location to 15 or 20 locations within three or four years. And I even started

2:10.4

assembling a team of advisors, but there was only one problem. You never wrote back to that email.

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