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W. Empire pod UK.com. Hello and me,

me William Durham. And me, Welcome to Empire with me, Anita Arnan.

And me, William Durham.

Now we're very excited about today because we are joined by Orlando Fijis,

and we're mostly excited because we got his name right.

I have had so many variations on that theme.

Elgar would be entirely jealous of it.

And my favorite Orlando, apart from being the greatest historian of Russia writing today, author of Crimea, the definitive book of the Crimean War, which is what we're talking about today.

You have the name that is most twistable. I thought it was mine, that it's yours. My favorite version was Figgies, which made me feel like it was Christmas. I've had Figgus.

Figgi pudding. I've been called all sorts of names, but yeah, Fijis will do.

Explain yourself.

Where does Fijis come from and well done William for always saying it right?

Well we're not sure I mean as far as one can tell on ancestry.com we're a bunch of

Londoners ever since records began but I suspect

we're either Huguenot immigrants or I like to think Catalans because the one place they

know how to pronounce my name was in Barcelona

so we must have been from that part of the world somewhere not a bad spot to be

recognised no no I'm happy and no sellers of figi putting in your ancestry for? No, no, no. All basic laborers from London,

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