Today's guest has built a life around two passions, fly fishing and world travel.

From his early days working at Kauffman Streamborn to becoming a tackle rep along people like

Brian O'Keefe.

Today's guest has followed a path that has taken him far beyond the Pacific Northwest.

By the end of this episode, you'll hear why Cuba's flats are unlike anywhere else in the

Caribbean, how John helps anglers navigate the ever-changing rules that Americans face traveling

in Cuba and what you can expect when chasing tarp and permit and bonefish in a fishery

where your group might be the only angler for 100 miles. This is the Webfly Swing podcast where I show you

the best places to travel to for fly fishing, how to find the best resources and tools to prepare

for that big trip and what you can do to give back to the fish species we all love. John Kovic is here

to take us inside the Cuban flats and the culture and history of Cuba. He's been there for decades. He's got 33

trips and counting, and he's going to be back there this November. We're going to get a perspective

not only on the fishing, but on Havana and the history. We take a nice tangent on this one,

so be prepared for that. We're going to find out why he is the leading expert in fly fishing

for this area, what you can expect at World Fly where he does his business and everything

else that's going to come along today. Here he is. Let's get started. John Kovic, you can find him at

Worldfly LLC.com. How you doing, John? I'm doing just fine early out here on the West Coast. Yeah, yeah, that's right. You like to get going early. Nice. How are things going? Are you staying cool this summer? You know, we've had a little bit of heat wave this last week, but you know, there's nothing like summer in the Pacific Northwest or the Western US if you ask me. So it's kind of funny.

I get people all the time ask me, you know, were you traveling right now and I say I'm not anywhere. I'm just staying home. It's beautiful here. I'm not crabbing and salmon fishing and hiking. So it's... Oh, nice. And where's your home these days? I'm just outside of Seattle. Oh yeah, outside of Seattle.

Cool.

Yeah, you're right in the, right in the hub.

You've got lots of, I mean, lots of fly fishing opportunities, right?

We, your home these days. I'm just outside of Seattle. Oh yeah, outside of Seattle. Cool. Yeah, you're right in the

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