Hello, boys and girls, ladies and germs. This is Tim Ferriss. Welcome to another episode of the

Tim Ferriss show. My guest today teaches people how to save themselves in their relationships

when they are on the brink. He is known as a turnaround expert. And what he teaches,

tactics and strategies are incredibly practical. I've used them in my own life. His fans include

Dr. Peter Attia,

Kevin Rose, and many others. And he breaks all the rules of therapy, which is part of what makes him

very, very interesting to me because the results are undeniable. Terry Real is a nationally recognized

family therapist, author, and teacher. He is known for his groundbreaking work on men and male psychology,

as well as his work on gender and couples. His book, I Don't Want to Talk About It, Overcoming the Secret

Legacy of Male Depression. The first mainstream book ever written on the topic of male depression

is a national bestseller. That really put him on the map in a big way. His new book,

Us Getting Past You and Me to

build a more loving relationship is a New York Times bestseller. And I've also featured snippets of

one of his audiobooks, Fierce Intimacy, on this podcast before as a guest episode, because what he

teaches can be applied immediately in all of your relationships, I would go so far to say. Terry's

relational life institute offers training for therapists and workshops for couples and individuals.

And I will tell you in advance, chances are you are going to disagree with some of what he says

in this episode. So don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. If something gets your haggles up,

just breathe and continue listening and you will find something of value that you can apply

in your life today or this week. Sometime soon, I promise you. You can find all things Terry at

terryoreal.com. That's T-E-R-R-R-E-A-L.com. We're going to get right to a very wide-ranging

and tactical conversation right after a few words from the people who make this podcast

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