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Hello and welcome to episode 810 with Marina Nitsa.

Marina has so much fun inside her perspective on how you can hack your bureaucracy.

That stuff done, no matter how much red tape or process stuff you got to deal with in

your organization, she's got pro tips from her own towering experience, as well as that

of many of the people she's worked with and interviewed and spoken with so much good

stuff.

So you'll learn one, why bureaucracies could actually be great to six favorite bureaucracy

hacks.

And three, what not to do when trying to challenge a bureaucracy.

So if you want to check out the show notes or the transcript or some of the links to bits

that we mentioned here, please visit us at awesome at your job.com slash EP 810.

Now here's Marina story.

Marina Nitsa is co-author of the new book, Hack Your Bureaucracy, and a partner at Layer

Alif, a crisis response firm, specializing in restoring complex software systems to service.

Marina is also a fellow about new America's new practice lab where she improves America's

foster care system through the resource family working group and child welfare playbook.

Marina was the CTO of the VA after serving as a senior advisor on technology in the Obama

White House.

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