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Okay, so I got us recording now here, and I'm joined this evening by a good friend and fellow deer hunter, Todd Havill. Todd, how are you doing this evening?

Good.

You want to do a little brief introduction piece about yourself. How long you,

I guess, you know, I don't know a whole lot of your backstory, Todd, as far as when you started deer hunting and how you got into deer hunting. Okay, yeah, I started out rifle hunting with my dad when I was 12 years old and started archery

hunting when I was 15.

I really didn't know a whole lot about what I was doing.

My dad basically took me in the woods and sat me down and said, here, sit here.

And I got into archery hunting. I had to learn basically on my own. I really

didn't have any mentors or anything, so it was kind of put the pieces together a little at a time

over a lot of years. And my background is just to summarize what, like, what era was that? I mean,

just so people can have an idea what kind of equipment you were working with,

and what years did you kind of start hunting?

Well, mid-late 70s is when I got into it when I started.

Okay.

So I've been 40-some years now of hunting.

And I, it was, the compound boys were just coming out yeah most people were still the

old timers were all shooting this is sticking a string back then and I went out

and spent some of my hard-earned money and got a compound bull you remember what

kind it was yeah it was uh um

it was a cheetah american american archery it was out of uh ocato falls wisconsin

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