Hey everybody this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters. In this episode we spoke

with Gamelin Condi, a popular motivational speaker, author and podcast host. She's

written several books and currently hosts two podcasts, Real Talk, Come Follow Me

and the Middle. We spoke with her about a couple of topics that she's spoken and

written about recently. First is her concept of stewardship versus ownership,

which is a really great insight into facing challenges without letting them

become an identity. And secondly about the concept of letting God prevail, which

was the focus of President Nelson's October 2020 general conference address. We

love talking with Gamelin and found her to be extraordinarily authentic and

approachable. We hope that you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.

Alright Gamelin, thank you so much for joining us here in studio to come on the

podcast. It's great to be here in person, right? Yes, I don't think that for

granted. Yeah, absolutely. Well, it's definitely our pleasure to have you on.

Our listeners will have just heard an intro sort of quick highlights about you,

but we'd love for you to be able to dive into your story a little bit more.

Yeah. Tell about your background and your faith journey and sort of how you

ended up here where you are in doing what you're doing. Yeah, thank you. I grew up

in Northern California Sacramento area is where I was born and my mom divorced

and had two kids and my sister and I and my mom and she had her own journey with

mental health and people are always like, what do you mean your dad doesn't live

with you, right? Like just diversity wise, that wasn't a natural experience

within the church at the time. We lived in an all black predominantly black

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