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The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström®: Expert Mode Marketing Technology, AI, & CX

#809: Jacquard Chief Product & Growth Officer Toby Coulthard on sounding verifiably human in an AI world

The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström®: Expert Mode Marketing Technology, AI, & CX

The Agile Brand

Business, Marketing

4.9113 Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

As every brand rushes to adopt generative AI, what if the greatest competitive advantage is no longer about speed and scale, but about sounding uniquely, verifiably human? Agility requires moving beyond the hype of new technology to strategically apply it for true differentiation. It’s about being smart and selective, not just fast. Today, we're going to talk about a paradox at the heart of modern marketing. Generative AI has promised unprecedented scale and personalization, but for many, it's delivering a sea of sameness where brand voice gets lost. We’ll explore how to break free from this generic output, moving from a reactive "test and learn" model to a predictive one, and discuss the critical balance of combining AI's power with essential human expertise to maintain brand soul, safety, and performance across countless channels. To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Toby Coulthard, Chief Product & Growth Officer at Jacquard. About Toby Coulthard Toby Coulthard is Chief Product & Growth Officer at Jacquard. Toby Coulthard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/toocou/ Resources Jacquard: https://www.jacquard.com/ Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code AGILE at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/agile  The Agile Brand podcast is brought to you by TEKsystems. Learn more here: https://www.teksystems.com/versionnextnow Catch the future of e-commerce at eTail Palm Springs, Feb 23-26 in Palm Springs, CA. Go here for more details: https://etailwest.wbresearch.com/ Drive your customers to new horizons at the premier retail event of the year for Retail and Brand marketers. Learn more at CRMC 2026, June 1-3. https://www.thecrmc.com/ Check out The Array, Jacquard's podcast: https://www.jacquard.com/the-array-podcast-series/ Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code AGILE at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/agile  Enjoyed the show? Tell us more at and give us a rating so others can find the show at: https://ratethispodcast.com/agile Connect with Greg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregkihlstrom Don't miss a thing: get the latest episodes, sign up for our newsletter and more: https://www.theagilebrand.show Check out The Agile Brand Guide website with articles, insights, and Martechipedia, the wiki for marketing technology: https://www.agilebrandguide.com The Agile Brand is produced by Missing Link—a Latina-owned strategy-driven, creatively fueled production co-op. From ideation to creation, they craft human connections through intelligent, engaging and informative content. https://www.missinglink.company

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0:00.0

The Agile Brand

0:02.3

Welcome to Season 8 of the Agile Brand podcast.

0:10.1

This season we're going all in on expert mode

0:12.7

MARTEC, AI, and customer experience, talking with the people and

0:16.8

platforms behind the brands you know and love.

0:19.4

I'm Greg Kilstrom, your host, and I help Fortune 1000 companies make sense of

0:23.8

Martec, AI, and marketing ops.

0:26.6

Hit subscribe or follow to make sure you always get the latest episodes and leave us a rating

0:30.8

so others can find us as well.

0:32.8

And make sure you check out our sponsor, Tech Systems, an industry leader in full-stack

0:36.8

technology services, talent services, and real leader in full-stack technology services,

0:38.3

talent services, and real-world application. For more information, go to teK-systems.com. Now let's dive in.

0:48.6

As every brand rushes to adopt generative AI, what if the greatest competitive advantage

0:53.2

is no longer about speed

0:54.6

and scale, but about something uniquely, verifiably human?

0:59.1

Agility requires moving beyond the hype of new technology to strategically apply it for

1:03.7

true differentiation. It's about being smart and selective, not just fast.

1:08.8

Today we're going to talk about a paradox at the heart of modern marketing.

1:12.1

Generative AI has promised unprecedented scale and personalization, but for many, it's delivering

1:17.6

a sea of sameness, where brand voice gets lost. We're going to explore how to break free from this

1:22.8

generic output, moving from a reactive test and learn model to a predictive one and discuss the critical

1:28.6

balance of combining AI's power with essential human expertise to maintain brand soul, safety,

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