#808 Perfectly Hidden Depression - Dr Margaret Rutherford
Mental Illness Happy Hour
Paul Gilmartin
4.8 • 6.1K Ratings
🗓️ 10 July 2026
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
Dr. Margaret Rutherford is a clinical psychologist, author, and TEDx speaker. Throughout the course of her work, she noticed something that she calls Perfectly Hidden Depression, emotional pain camouflaged by achievement, tight emotional control, and a perfect-seeming life. If this sounds like you, look for her book Perfectly Hidden Depression Workbook: A Step-by-Step Guide to Challenge the Ten Traits of Perfectionism That Mask Your Depression.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to episode 808 with my guest, Dr. Margaret Rutherford. |
| 0:04.6 | I'm Paul. |
| 0:05.6 | Last name Gilmartin. |
| 0:07.7 | Welcome, if you're new. |
| 0:09.0 | I hope you find this to be a place for honesty. |
| 0:14.3 | I do. |
| 0:15.9 | That's when I try to make this place to be. |
| 0:19.4 | I'm trying to make it to feel comfortable for |
| 0:22.6 | people to open up about whatever's fucking with them whether it was in the past or the present |
| 0:28.1 | or their future tripping I really uh I'm excited for you guys to listen to this conversation |
| 0:36.3 | with Dr. Margaret Rutherford. I really enjoyed talking to her. |
| 0:41.1 | And since then, I've been on her podcast, and she's just a kindred spirit. And I always love |
| 0:50.1 | when I have somebody on who's a mental health professional and they open up about their |
| 0:58.5 | life and then the icing on the cake is that we get to also get their professional insight |
| 1:06.0 | about their clients and themselves and all that other good stuff but yeah really really like her um |
| 1:15.3 | those you that are regular listeners know that i have been struggling uh medley and emotionally uh lately |
| 1:22.9 | mostly with feelings of uh flatness depression, etc., etc. |
| 1:28.8 | It is still here. |
| 1:31.0 | It is still a lot of days in bed. |
| 1:35.2 | And that's where I'm at, man. |
| 1:39.0 | That's where I'm at. |
| 1:40.1 | And the outpouring of support continues to touch me. |
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