806: The King of Drag and Drop: Alex Reardon
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Wes Bos
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🗓️ 9 August 2024
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
Scott and Wes talk with Alex Reardon from Atlassian about developing drag-and-drop libraries, specifically the challenges with creating efficient and accessible drag-and-drop functionalities for the web. They also explore what it takes to build and implement a system that works seamlessly across various frameworks.
Show Notes
- 00:00 Welcome to Syntax!
- 01:18 Brought to you by Sentry.io.
- 01:51 What Alex does at Atlassian
- 04:38 What makes drag and drop tricky.
- 06:38 Use-cases.
- 10:54 What security is in place?
- 12:30 How to make it feel native.
- 19:20 Is the drag and drop spec ongoing?
- 20:03 How do you build this headless?
- 21:33 How does drag and drop work with frameworks?
- 23:48 Making drag and drop feel the same across mobile and desktop.
- 26:09 What's the key to really good drag performance?
- 29:58 How do you make drag and drop accessible?
- 34:57 Pragmatic drag and drop code vs application code.
- 40:00 How does testing work?
- 43:15 Internal adoption at Atlassian.
- 44:27 Working on high-impact projects.
- 49:15 Versioning and internal adoption at Atlassian.
- 51:29 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs.
Sick Picks
- Alex: Coffee, James Hoffmann YouTube Channel.
Shameless Plugs
- Alex: Dom Events.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Syntax today. We have the King. Oh shit I just dropped my... |
| 0:05.0 | I'm so emphatic about the King of Dragon Drop on today. I just knocked over a bottle onto my thing. |
| 0:13.0 | Luckily, I keep all of my computers off the desk |
| 0:16.9 | because I've done that so many times |
| 0:18.6 | and I've ruined a few pushing them on. |
| 0:21.4 | Anyways, very emphatic, Very stoked today to talk to you. |
| 0:24.8 | Talk to Alex Ruden, who is the author of Pragmatic Drag and Drop. |
| 0:29.3 | He was from Atlassian. |
| 0:30.6 | This episode was a dog to get scheduled because he is from down under in Australia. |
| 0:37.0 | Welcome, Alex, thanks so much for coming on. |
| 0:39.0 | So good to be here and thank you so much for accommodating the weird time zones. |
| 0:43.4 | Yeah, yeah, absolutely. |
| 0:45.0 | What time is it there? |
| 0:46.2 | It's 6.03 a.m. |
| 0:49.0 | Oh man, so you're pretty tired. |
| 0:51.6 | It's end of the day for us, super early for you. |
| 0:54.8 | It's always tricky to get scheduled. |
| 0:57.5 | Yeah, it is. |
| 0:58.5 | It's not too bad. |
| 0:58.6 | I'm usually up about this time with the kids. |
| 1:00.6 | But it's, yeah. |
| 1:02.2 | Big kudos to my wife who's doing the early shift with |
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