804: Should Your Website Work Without JavaScript?

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Wes Bos

Js, Technology, Css, Html5, Tech News, Webdevelopment, News, Javascript, Html

4.9 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2024

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Scott and Wes debate whether your website really needs JavaScript to function. They explore the principles of web standards, progressive enhancement, and test popular websites like Shopify and Netflix to see how they perform without JavaScript.

Show Notes

00:00 Welcome to Syntax!
00:11 Take 2
01:43 Brought to you by Sentry.io.
02:19 The clip summarized.
- 03:16 Your website should load, be readable and be (mostly) styled without JavaScript.
- 07:32 Web standards first. If it can be done without JavaScript, it should be.
  - 08:09 What if the CSS doesn’t load?
  - 10:20 Linking
  - 10:24 Forms.
  - 12:11 Links (Duh, but also c’mon!)
  - 12:35 Query parameters.
- 13:57 Server render if possible.
15:20 Progressive Enhancement.
- 17:24 CSS Page Transitions.
19:07 Let’s test websites out.
- 19:15 Shopify.
- 22:16 Syntax.fm.
- 25:23 Netflix.
  - 27:27 Local first and offline service workers.
- 29:27 TikTok.
- 29:33 GitHub.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Syntax on this.
0:03.0	Sorry.
0:05.0	Roll with it.
0:10.0	Roll with it. Roll with it.
0:11.0	All right.
0:12.0	Welcome to Syntax on this Monday hasty treat we're going to be talking about
0:17.2	does your website need JavaScript? Should it work without JavaScript?
0:23.0	All of the things that we talked about in,
0:25.0	it was a potluck, and we had a clip go a little bit
0:30.0	all over Twitter where people had some conversation about do you need
0:34.6	JavaScript to be available the whole time should your website work without it we're
0:39.3	going to be answering that question very directly in this episode we're going to be talking a little bit about the ins and outs of why it matters
0:45.5	when it doesn't matter why, you know, how you should be thinking about adding
0:49.5	JavaScript to your website.
0:50.7	My name is Scott Tolensky.
0:51.7	I'm a developer from Denver and with me as always is West Boss. What's up West?
0:54.7	I am excited to get this out because that clip was, obviously it was
1:00.2	caught fire in a way that it made us look like some sort of idiot that wants to load all the
1:08.2	JavaScript and people were very angry and all the replies were like, no I agree with you.
1:13.4	So we're going to attempt to explain ourselves of what we were trying to say there.
1:19.0	Like do people turn off JavaScript?
1:21.7	And the clip was like, there's no chance people are
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