Hello and welcome to Mac Power Users. My name is Stephen Hackett, and I'm joined by my friend and yours, Mr. David Sparks.

Hey, Stephen, how are you today?

I'm good, David. How are you?

I, you know, I had vacation this year. I was thinking about you because we were in the state of Hawaii, the lovely state of Hawaii.

Did you know that like every other car in Hawaii is a Toyota Tacoma?

Yeah, it's heaven on earth.

That's what it sounds like to me.

The whole time, we were just counting them driving around like, Mr. Hackett would be so happy if he was here.

He would be among family.

That's right.

Ohana, as they say.

Yeah, you got to get out there sometime.

It's great.

But back in the saddle here with the old Mac power users, today, before we get started,

I was a guest on the Paperplaces podcast.

Yeah.

Yeah, this is a podcast on Relay, hosted by Carrie Provanzano, our chief

advertising officer. Carrie's also a writer, and she has this great show talking about people,

talking to people about the writing process, and your interview was great. It was so good.

It was really fun. You know, I didn't know what to expect, but Kerry is really good at it.

And I talk about blending analog and digital tools in my writing system.

And it was kind of a workflow that I'd never really discussed before.

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