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How you living, buddy? You're doing okay?

I'm well, nowadays just living is good enough. I'm alive in Trump's America, 2025.

That's all we can ask for right now, you know, for now, at least, alive for now.

Maybe that'll be my slogan alive in 25

what does it gets as much as you could ask for yeah and we shall see um you're you're a student of

history are you not oh yeah love it yeah i love history man i today, and it just seemed, oh, ever so apropos.

So before ratifying the U.S. Constitution, there was a debate over the president's pardoning power.

Oh.

George Mason said this, quote, now I conceive that the president ought not to have the power of

pardoning because he may frequently pardon crimes which are advised by himself.

It may happen at some future day that he will establish a monarchy and destroy the republic.

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