Hi, everyone. Welcome to this week's episode of Outrage Optimism. Tom here, I just wanted to take a word at the top of the episode to let you know that today the episode we are bringing you is the second in the special series on the future of transport.

Attentive listeners will remember that about four weeks ago we brought you the first in the series, which was an investigation into the future of aviation.

And today we've moved on to the future of fuels.

This is a great episode. It's different to our normal conversations. We have lots of different guests. We have conversations. We take you on a journey to explore what the future of fuels will be.

We tell amazing stories about how the world we are trying to create is emerging all around us and how exciting this future is going to be.

We're grateful to our sponsor nest Dave having made this podcast possible and to all of the guests for participating and to you for listening. Hope you enjoy it. Here's the episode.

Hello and welcome to Outrage Optimism. I'm Tom Riviccarni. I'm Cristiana Figueroz. And I'm Paul Dickinson. This week in a break from our normal format we bring you the second in a special series of episodes looking at the future of sustainable transport.

In a year when across the globe cities fell silent, cars did stationary and oil prices crashed. We'll be looking at how emerging energy sources will shape the kind of vehicles will drive in the years to come.

There's no denying that for over a century fossil fuels have played a key role in humanity's progress but at a cost. They account for more than two thirds of greenhouse gas emissions and the pollution from burning them kills more than four million people a year.

So in keeping with this podcast mission to balance both outrage and optimism will be bringing you plenty of both.

We'd all been born into a world where we sat in traffic jams with thousands of engines going bumping out toxic carbonogenic gas. It was like that's normal.

There is so much outrage out there when you really look at what pollution does to people. In particular I think the symbol of that outrage at least in my case is the tailpipe.

And I thought at the time from the one has got a problem and I thought at the time we should create a green version of the sport we should we should move in that direction.

What's clear is the internal combustion engine for ground transport is dead dead dead dead dead.

Now even though the coronavirus pandemic is expected to result in a record seven percent decline in energy related greenhouse gas emissions this year.

The international energy agency has warned against complacency because the road to a decarbonized transport sector is indeed long and winding and without the ambition commitment and stubborn optimism of people like the ones you're about to hear from.

Global emissions could still continue to rise to a point where there's no going back. That's on this episode of outrage and optimism.

This episode is brought to you thanks to the support of our sponsor Neste. Neste is in the business of fighting climate change by producing renewable fuels and circular solutions.

Originally a local oil company from Finland Neste has transformed into a leader in the field of renewable diesel and jet fuel from refined waste products which offer an immediate solution to cutting the global carbon emissions of road and air transport.

So one of the interesting things about the last five years since Paris has been the driving down of costs of renewable energy and I think all of us have kind of witnessed that and we've been amazed at the fact that really today it is cheaper to generate solar and wind than really any other form of electricity.

And I think most people listening to this podcast are probably familiar with that fact but probably what people are less familiar with and what I myself was certainly less familiar with is the fact that transport is also transforming at an equally rapid pace to the point where decarbonized transport systems are going to become the norm within just a few years.

Where are you guys on this issue? Have been tracking this as closely as you have the decarbonization of power?

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