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GymCastic: The Gymnastics Podcast

80's Fight: The Great Romanian Soviet Rivalry Era

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4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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The greatest rivalries of the 1980s! This week, we have a commissioned episode from Club Gym Nerd member Kimo, who asked for an episode all about the 1980s rivalries between the Romanians and the Soviets, both team and individually. We are oh so happy to oblige! Setting the scene

  • A history of Soviet dominance
  • Romania’s 1976 emergence
  • The 1977 Europeans Romanian WALKOUT!
  • The first great Romanian/Soviet rivalry—Nadia vs. Nellie and how it may or may not have influenced the future of gymnastics
  • Romania wins in 1979, where Nadia saves the day with one hand.

The Rivalry

  • The 1980 Olympics of crazy judging
    • Nadia vs. Davydova and the case of the 30-minute delay
    • Nadia vs. Nellie and the case of the “computer malfunction”
    • Mukhina’s paralysis and the race for innovative difficulty
  • 1981 Worlds
    • The silliest scores of 1981 (oh, it’s 9.800 for this)
    • The case of the Szabo/Agache impersonation of 1981
    • Romania ends up 4th. That’s right 4th.
  • 1983 Worlds
    • Innovation from an all-star Soviet team—YURCHENKO vaults, the SHISHOVA
    • Just fangirling about Mostepanova for a while
    • More fun with bonkers scoring
  • 1984 boycott gives us an opportunity to talk about China
  • 1985 Worlds
    • Soviet Union casually adds Omelianchik and Shushunova to its already stellar 1983 team
    • The Soviets were so deep that Shushunova placed FIFTH on her own team in qualification
    • The evolution of Romanian floor to be less “chicken dance” and whether it contributed to what happened next
  • 1987 and THE TIDE TURNS
    • Silivas wins the European AA title in Moscow, and the Soviets (gasp) fall
    • Romania gets its first world team title in 8 years
    • How the addition of Aurelia Dobre changed the game for Romania
    • Pro-Soviet bias in skill naming
    • Dobre vs. Shushunova vs. Silivas vs. Baitova vs. Omelianchik. This was no two-way rivalry
    • The 1988 Olympics and how timing is everything

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Remember, the show is PG-13, so you might hear a naughty word or two.

0:07.4

Today, the greatest rivalries of the 80s, concentrating on the Romanians and Soviets.

0:13.1

We're going to set the stage with the pre-80s dramatics, including the 1977 Romanian protest walkout.

0:20.7

Nellie Kim never getting over the fact that the world did not recognize that she got a 10 minutes after Nadia got a 10.

0:29.1

We're going to talk about age falsification, the Iron Curtain, China being like, boom, we were still doing gymnastics the whole time, completely corrupt judging, boycotts, Bokenskaya, biting, and beautiful gymnastics.

0:41.7

This episode was originally recorded in 2019, and it's one of our favorites and actually

0:46.3

a question about what's in this episode just came up and behind the scenes.

0:49.9

So I hope you guys enjoy it.

0:51.8

And welcome to the number one gymnastics podcast in the galaxy.

0:55.6

I'm Jessica.

0:56.6

And I'm here with Spencer from the balance beam situation.

1:00.1

Let's talk about this commission.

1:02.0

Yes.

1:03.0

This episode has been commissioned by club gym nerd member Kimo, who requested an episode all about

1:08.0

the 1980s rivalries between the Romanians and the Soviets, both team and

1:12.2

individually. Yes, please. I'm so excited. Thank you for letting us do this chemo, spelled

1:17.4

K-I-M-O. Club Jim Nerd members like Kimo help us pay the bills and deliver our weekly

1:24.0

podcasts and live shows and travel for the meat coverage that we do. Lots of that coming

1:29.2

up this summer. And next year, if you'd like to become a club gym nerd member, see details at

1:33.6

gymcastic.com. And there are membership tiers and little perks and all the way up to the very

1:38.9

top tier, which is the intergalactic champion like chem, who can commission a full episode.

1:45.2

So, let's begin.

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