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Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

8/19/22 Shane McCarver Debunks Petraeus’s Lies in the Atlantic

Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

Scott Horton

News, Politics

4.8902 Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Scott talks with Shane McCarver about an article he published last week at Antiwar.com challenging the wild assertions David Petraeus made in his Atlantic article earlier this month. Despite its length, Petraeus makes almost no concrete claims in his piece. Instead, he spends 10,000 words to make vague notions about grit and commitment that conveniently protect him from blame. One of the few specific arguments he does make, however, is that the U.S. should have supplied the Afghan National Army with more Russian-made MI-17 helicopters. McCarver was a soldier in Afghanistan working on this exact task up until the collapse of the ANA last summer. He explains to Scott why Petraeus’s argument that more helicopters could have prevented the Taliban’s victory is absurd.  Discussed on the show: “In Rebuke of the Dishonorable David Petraeus” (Antiwar.com) “Afghanistan Did Not Have To Turn Out This Way” (The Atlantic) Shane McCarver was a soldier in the United States army from 2013-2017. He worked as a logistics analyst on the DOD contract maintaining the MI-17 helicopters and the PC-12 fixed wing aircraft of the Afghan Air Force and Afghan Army Special Mission Wing from November 2018 until July 2021. He has since found honest work as a shipping coordinator for a manufacturer in Newport, New Hampshire. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; and Thc Hemp Spot. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm the director of the Libertarian Institute.

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I'm the director of the Libertarian Institute,

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editorial director of anti-war.com.

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Author of the book, Pools Arren,

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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . He was a soldier in the US Army from 2013 to 17 and worked with the Afghan Air Force in Afghanistan. And so it says here, he has since found honest work as a shipping coordinator for a

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manufacturer in Newport, New Hampshire and he wrote this great piece for anti-war.com in rebuke of the dishonorable David Petraeus.

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Welcome to the show Shane how are you doing?

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Fine thanks Scott how are you? I'm doing great, really appreciate to joining us here. So, um, tell me, uh, what's beef with, uh, old General Petraeus here?

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Well, Saturday morning I was drinking my coffee reading this article and got my blood

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boiling a little bit when he said that the problem with our with Afghanistan was our lack of commitment.

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You know, if there's over 2,000 soldiers died,

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