to

more on the whole Catholic Church scandal got some really interesting texts

maybe we'll get to those a little bit later. Yeah and we ought to get in a

little more into what it says about human beings and bureaucracies in the

rest of it. Yeah. Yeah. So one of the hottest topics around America and

certainly on the West Coast in recent years has been policing just a viable

force, please involve shootings that sort of thing and and and certainly like

most public arguments. This one veers wildly between extremes. But somewhere in

the middle, I think is really healthy and productive discussion about the way

citizens interact with police and and police doing what they do effectively

and Sacramento Police Chief Daniel Han joins us. The the chief is part of

implementing a new policy of chasing suspects, foot pursuit policies and he's

with us now chief Han, how are you sir? I'm good. How are you? Good. Hey, do I

understand correctly that you're first inspired to be a police officer by a

encountering one? I did encounter several, but that didn't inspire me to be one

no. No, but it was it was part of the story wasn't it? It is. I was arrested

last 16 per assault on an officer. Wow. Now that's an interesting story. And

how how just give us the short version of how that ended up with you being a

career police officer? Well, I didn't play a whole lot into it. I was arrested

when I was 16 after I got into argument with my mom and the police were called

and ultimately I was arrested and taken a juvenile hall. But I became a police

officer about two years later or applied when I was 18 kind of by accident

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