So, those lots of me, this interview with Penjalette kind of changes the tenor of the

Amarosa conversation. Does Mark Burnett have tapes of President Trump saying damaging things during celebrity

apprentice? Yes, I was in the room, says Penjalette. You've heard him say, oh yeah. Will you tell us what

you heard him say? No. Now, Mark Burnett, according to Donald J. Trump, says there are no such tapes that were

made on the set of the apprentice. We know being in this business that he might not necessarily know what

tapes there are. Right. The top guy isn't going to know what some tape tech thought was funny. We don't

know what Michael's recording or actually in the building we're in, anybody can be recording us anytime,

anytime we're around a microphone. Yeah, which is chilling, which is chilling. It's amazing. We

still have a career. So, yeah, I do have some concern about us. I'll become in paranoid weirdos.

If everybody's taping everything all the time. Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. It's already so paranoid and

weird already with when you try to fire somebody that they have to have lawyers present and and and and the

people who do the firing, they can't say anything. They can't say to you, you know, I've really liked

working with you. You're a good person. I hate doing that. You can't say that. No, because they might go,

if you said there was a good person yet, you fired him wrongful, this whistle, showing you for $100,000.

Yeah, so we're already down that road. But now you throw in the added element of everything could be

recorded. God, it's going to make us paranoid weirdos. Yeah. In private conversations with your

friends, no such thing as a private conversation. And then if it gets out, nobody just misses it as a

private conversation. They take it as if it's an published statement, right? Which is willful with

dishonesty. They're, you know, they can, you can whip up a crowd with it because the crowd is probably

too stupid to understand the difference or just doesn't want to understand the difference. But,

yeah, that's that's now willful. This maybe I'm being hypocritical because I take up, for

instance, Peter Strocks texts, you know, some of them to have some meaning when he could say,

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