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What if there is this middle ground somewhere, this middle ground that would save me from hellfire?

I think all I have to do is to try to understand the fact that he was human and that he did awful things

and make terrible mistakes, but I don't have to do anything about it.

I don't have to forgive and I don't have to hate to neither forgive him nor not.

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