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The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström®: Expert Mode Marketing Technology, AI, & CX

#798: Phill Agnew of the Nudge Podcast on the psychology of successful marketing and CX

The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström®: Expert Mode Marketing Technology, AI, & CX

The Agile Brand

Marketing, Business

4.9113 Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

In a world obsessed with Martech optimization and AI, is the most overlooked competitive advantage simply understanding how the human brain actually works? Agility requires more than just adapting to new technologies; it requires a deep, empathetic understanding of the timeless human behaviors that drive customer decisions. Today, we're going to talk about the intersection of marketing and human psychology. We'll explore how understanding cognitive biases and behavioral science isn't just an academic exercise, but a critical tool for creating more effective customer experiences, more persuasive messaging, and ultimately, a more resilient and agile brand. To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Phill Agnew, Host of Nudge Podcast at Nudge Podcast. About Phill Agnew Phill Agnew hosts Nudge, the UK's #1 marketing podcast. It's a critically acclaimed behavioural science show that has featured world-renowned guests such as Richard Shotton, Rory Sutherland, Tali Sharot, Jonah Berger, Dan Pink, and Chris Voss. With a knack for demystifying complex psychological concepts, Phill translates cutting-edge behavioural science into actionable insights for marketers, business leaders, and everyday professionals. His podcast has been downloaded by hundreds of thousands across the globe, establishing Phill as a trusted voice in behavioural marketing.,Yes,This has been completed Phill Agnew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phill-agnew/ Resources Nudge Podcast: https://www.nudgepodcast.com/ The Agile Brand podcast is brought to you by TEKsystems. Learn more here: https://www.teksystems.com/versionnextnow Catch the future of e-commerce at eTail Palm Springs, Feb 23-26 in Palm Springs, CA. Go here for more details: https://etailwest.wbresearch.com/ Drive your customers to new horizons at the premier retail event of the year for Retail and Brand marketers. Learn more at CRMC 2026, June 1-3. https://www.thecrmc.com/ Enjoyed the show? Tell us more at and give us a rating so others can find the show at: https://ratethispodcast.com/agileConnect with Greg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregkihlstromDon't miss a thing: get the latest episodes, sign up for our newsletter and more: https://www.theagilebrand.showCheck out The Agile Brand Guide website with articles, insights, and Martechipedia, the wiki for marketing technology: https://www.agilebrandguide.com The Agile Brand is produced by Missing Link—a Latina-owned strategy-driven, creatively fueled production co-op. From ideation to creation, they craft human connections through intelligent, engaging and informative content. https://www.missinglink.company

Transcript

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0:00.0

The Agile Brand

0:02.3

Welcome to Season 8 of the Agile Brand podcast.

0:10.1

This season we're going all in on expert mode

0:12.7

MARTEC, AI, and customer experience,

0:15.7

talking with the people and platforms behind the brands you know and love.

0:19.4

I'm Greg Kilstrom, your host,

0:21.3

and I help Fortune 1000 companies make sense of

0:23.8

Martec, AI, and marketing ops.

0:26.7

Hit subscribe or follow to make sure you always get

0:28.9

the latest episodes and leave us a rating

0:30.9

so others can find us as well.

0:33.2

And make sure you check out our sponsor, Tech Systems,

0:35.8

an industry leader in full stack technology services, talent services, and real-world application.

0:41.6

For more information, go to teKSystems.com.

0:45.5

Now let's dive in.

0:49.6

In a world obsessed with Martec optimization and AI is the most overlooked competitive advantage

0:55.4

simply understanding how the human brain actually works.

0:59.2

Agility requires more than just adapting to new technologies. It requires a deep,

1:03.7

empathetic understanding of the timeless human behaviors that drive customer decisions.

1:08.4

Today we're going to talk about the intersection of marketing and human

1:11.3

psychology. We'll explore how understanding cognitive biases and behavioral science isn't just

1:16.9

an academic exercise, but a critical tool for creating more effective customer experiences,

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