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I'm a pen and teller, and I am the fourth listener.

And I am the fourth listener.

And that must make me at least the fourth listener.

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And welcome to what absolutely promises to be a great episode of dogma debate, because I have Meredith Willits with me and I discovered Meredith

as I was researching last week's episode on Tradwives and Meredith is an ex-Trad wife

and she's a hell of a content creator on TikTok. I've watched all her videos and she's so smart

and she talks a bunch of smack about Donald Trump, which I love. And she makes amazingly good

points. But we're going to start with the trad wife stuff. So Meredith, welcome to Dogmaneat.

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. I love this topic. Yeah, me too.

I mean, I didn't even really know about this topic until a couple of weeks ago. and I went down a rabbit hole. I was like, what?

But you were a trad wife.

Would you mind telling us a little bit about your life story?

How did you find yourself a traditional wife?

Well, you know, grew up in the Midwest outside of Cleveland.

Traditional mom stayed home, had her side hustle. She was a reporter. But as a general

rule, grew up in a small town, Avon Lake Ohio, where, you know, the majority of the parents'

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