#791 The Evolution of Taylor Swift; Phil Spector, Jazmine Sullivan & Sylvain Sylvain

Sound Opinions

Society & Culture, Music, Arts

4.4 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Two of the best selling albums of 2020 were from Taylor Swift. Hosts Jim DeRogatis and Greg Kot talk with music critic Kristin Stahlke about Swift's remarkable year and what led to it. They also review a new album from singer-songwriter Jazmine Sullivan, bid farewell to New York Dolls guitarist Sylvain Sylvain and discuss Phil Spector.

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Featured Songs:

Taylor Swift, "dorothea," evermore, Republic, 2020

The Ronettes, "Be My Baby," (Single), Phillies, 1963

Darlene Love, "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)," (Live on Late Night with David Letterman), Unreleased, 1986

Ike and Tina Turner, "River Deep - Mountain High," River Deep - Mountain High, London, 1966

New York Dolls, "Trash," New York Dolls, Mercury, 1973

David Johansen, "Frenchette," David Johansen, Columbia, 1978

Jazmine Sullivan, "Lost One," Heaux Tales, RCA, 2021

Jazmine Sullivan, "Pick Up Your Feelings," Heaux Tales, RCA, 2021

Jazmine Sullivan, "Antoinette's Tale," Heaux Tales, RCA, 2021

Jazmine Sullivan, "The Other Side," Heaux Tales, RCA, 2021

Taylor Swift, "champagne problems," evermore, Republic, 2020

Taylor Swift, "this is me trying," folklore, Republic, 2020

Taylor Swift, "the 1," folklore, Republic, 2020

Taylor Swift, "willow," evermore, Republic, 2020

Taylor Swift, "exile (feat. Bon Iver)," folklore, Republic, 2020

Taylor Swift, "closure," evermore, Republic, 2020

Taylor Swift, "This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things," reputation, Big Machine, 2017

Taylor Swift, "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together," Red, Big Machine, 2012

Taylor Swift, "no body, no crime (feat. HAIM)," evermore, Republic, 2020

Taylor Swift, "august," folklore, Republic, 2020

Taylor Swift, "marjorie," evermore, Republic, 2020

Taylor Swift, "mirrorball," folklore, Republic, 2020

Taylor Swift, "gold rush," evermore, Republic, 2020

Frank Zappa, "Peaches en Regalia," Hot Rats, Reprise, 1969

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0:00.0	You're listening to sound opinions and later in the show we'll talk about Taylor Swift's two 2020 albums and her status on the pop stratosphere.
0:10.0	We'll also review the latest album from singer-songwriter Jasmine Sullivan, but first some obituaries. The night we met I knew I needed you so and if I had the chin, I never let you go.
0:39.0	So won't you say you love me?
0:42.0	I'll make you so proud of you.
0:45.0	We'll make them turn their head.
0:49.0	Every place we go, so one to plead. Be my name. That is B My Baby by the Ronets produced,
0:57.0	That is Be My Baby by the Runets, produced by Phil Specter,
1:02.0	one of a string of classic singles that Specter produced, arranged in many ways,
1:09.0	wrote some of them in the late 50s through the mid 60s,
1:15.0	dominated that era of popular music.
1:17.9	Everybody knows by now Specter died
1:19.8	at the age of 81 on January 16th of COVID complications. It would be. of and also the man who murdered Lana Clarkson in 2003 the same day that they met.
1:37.0	Lana Clarkson is gone now Phil Specter is as well.
1:41.0	Complicated legacy doesn't even begin to explain what this man's life was like.
1:48.4	Troubling. There was a guy here who clearly had psychological problems all through his life, was enabled
1:56.6	by people around him, the music industry, to continue what was described charmingly as erratic behavior early on.
2:05.0	Like shooting a gun off next to John Lennon's ear, you know, or threatening the Ramones.
2:11.0	Exactly. And I mean, what we have here is a guy who clearly had problems for a long, long time.
2:18.4	And Lana Clarkson paid the ultimate price when he went completely off the rail. So Specter spent the last years of his life in prison. He was accused of murder, he was found guilty of murder, he ended up going to prison, he ended up dying a very lonely death. And at the same time, the work, the music. I wanted to pay tribute not so much to Phil Specter, as talented as he was in the studio, but to the people who helped him make those records.
2:45.6	Specifically, three women.
2:47.6	You know, when we talk about the Renettes, we talk about Ronnie Specter, his second wife,
2:53.5	who was abused by Phil Specter.
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