#790 Fathers, Sons & Vulnerability - Mike de la Rocha
Mental Illness Happy Hour
Paul Gilmartin
4.8 • 6.1K Ratings
🗓️ 6 March 2026
⏱️ 101 minutes
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Summary
Mike de la Rocha is a musician, author, and social justice advocate who joins Paul to discuss why vulnerability is so important for men– something his father’s death helped him see. Look for his book, Sacred Lessons: Teaching My Father How to Love, and his podcast of the same name.
More about Mike de la Rocha:
Book: https://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Lessons-Teaching-Father-Love/dp/B0D5WKQDSP
IG: https://www.instagram.com/mrmikedelarocha/?hl=en
Podcast: https://www.instagram.com/oursacredlessons/?hl=en
Revolve:https://www.revolveimpact.com/
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to episode 790 with my guest, Mike De La Rocha. |
| 0:04.2 | If you're new to the podcast, my name's Paul. |
| 0:08.0 | Settle in. |
| 0:09.5 | Pour yourself a drink. |
| 0:12.4 | This place, this podcast is a place for honesty about all the battles in our heads |
| 0:18.1 | from medically diagnosed conditions, past traumas, and sexual dysfunction, |
| 0:22.8 | to everyday compulsive negative thinking. |
| 0:25.3 | And this show is not meant to be a substitute for professional mental counseling. |
| 0:29.1 | I am not a therapist. |
| 0:32.3 | What am I? |
| 0:33.7 | I'm a humble farmer who just wants to wear his boots and drink his beer and feed his dog. |
| 0:44.4 | Oh my God. |
| 0:45.1 | I don't know if you if you saw that fucking pandering. |
| 0:51.4 | I like how I'm trying to make an inclusive podcast, and I'm just shitting on somebody right |
| 0:59.0 | out of the gate. |
| 0:59.9 | Anyway, let's, I wanted to talk about, I just came from my Thursday night support group |
| 1:09.5 | meeting, which is the thing that has really |
| 1:12.0 | fed my soul for the last 22 years and helped me stay sober and helped me learn what |
| 1:20.7 | vulnerability and transparency and all this stuff that I longed for but could never really find. |
| 1:32.8 | And there were so many great topics tonight, |
| 1:35.5 | but one of the things that somebody said was he talked about the power of feeling seen. |
| 1:41.7 | And it got me thinking that, boy, isn't that really at the core of what so many of us |
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