Come with me on an exploration of self-discovery. On this podcast we decipher what really matters,

as we unravel the chaos of day-to-day work to learn how to build an essential life.

I use this episode, this opportunity to talk directly with you that I love so much,

to answer some questions that a Brazilian newspaper had sent to me. Something amazing is happening

in Brazil with both effortless and essentialism. And you see it elsewhere as well in various

community forums that there's just a whole hub of enthusiasm for these ideas there and that

they're being embraced in a disproportionate and exciting way. And the questions that they

presented to me were so interesting and thoughtful. I didn't get through all of them in the first

episode. And so I just wanted to continue today with answering the questions that they presented.

And let's get into it. In your book, Effortless, you talk about this culture in which everything

works 24 hours a day and some people just don't know how to relax. Well that's true. Today with

mobile phones and social media, we have the feeling that we don't turn off because we're connected

all the time. Yes. If we disconnect, we have the feeling that we won't be able to compete with a

person who does the opposite. How can we change that perception? Well, one answer to that question

is don't compete at a race you don't want to win. What I mean is don't win in the wrong race.

I once went to an event with some of the most senior leaders in some of the major corporations

in the United States. It was an interesting setting because they took us into this

very impressive hotel. And there were these almost secret pathways at alleys almost into this

one grand room kind of library room, something you might see in a Jane Austen movie. And that's

where everybody was gathered about 40 or 50 leaders. And as the time we spent together went on,

a sensed something under the surface. And it was that as they talked about some of their regrets,

as one of the people were vulnerable about his relationship with his teenage son and how strained

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