What's up guys? It is Modern Crafts and Monday, and before I get started,

this podcast is sponsored by Kukin Brothers

and their Classical Molding Line.

I am an avid user of that product,

as well as John

and Tyler, we are the other co-host.

Now, but we've been working with them on a lot of our projects,

but we owe a lot of this podcast to Ryan and his entire team down in

Kukin for helping us put together the Monocrossment podcast and making what it is today with his continued support.

Yeah, I feel like they've stood behind us pretty much from the get-go and have been like a huge motivator for us doing all of this.

Yeah, and for the industry.

Yeah.

So it's good people so it's easy.

Without further ado, our guess this week.

I don't think he needs much of an introduction, but Norm Abrams, we are sitting here in Concord,

Massachusetts at this old house production office, and we have the honor of sitting down with Norm

for about two and a half hours, and we have the honor of sitting down with Norm for about two and a half hours and we talk

about everything from the beginning of this old house when he didn't know it was going to be

a TV show to being on a TV show to what we can do to better this industry.

To him building his own house and we got to see pictures of it you guys won't

because it's an audio podcast but yeah that's a non nah nah nah poo poo you guys I love this one he's a legend

now i'm not maver from this old house and of course the New Yankee Workshop for many years.

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