79 - Gender Identity: Literally False, Metaphorically True with Dr. Bret Alderman
Gender: A Wider Lens
Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley
4.6 • 961 Ratings
🗓️ 21 July 2022
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
Bret Alderman is a writer and life coach who works with gender-questioning teens and their parents. He received his Ph.D. in Depth Psychology from the Pacifica Graduate Institute in 2012. His book Symptom, Symbol, and the Other of Language: A Jungian Interpretation of the Linguistic Turn, is an attempt to understand postmodernism, specifically its intense preoccupation with language, from a perspective informed by the work of Carl Jung. This work, in turn, has led him to an interest in Queer Theory and its relation to earlier, first-generation postmodernist thinkers.
Bret’s insight into postmodernist and poststructuralist thinking provides a rich platform on
which to get to grips with gender ideology. In this fascinating discussion, he explains the “linguistic turn” and the Jungian concepts such as ideological possession and other important archetypes. Perhaps most importantly, Bret tells us why a statement can be literally false and yet remain metaphorically true — and how we can best respond when this is happening.
Links:
- Bret Alderman: Symptom, Symbol, and the Other of Language: A Jungian Interpretation of the Linguistic Turn
- Bret’s website: https://www.aldermancoaching.com/
- Judith Butler: Bodies That Matter: On the Discursive Limits of Sex https://www.routledge.com/Bodies-That-Matter-On-the-Discursive-Limits-of-Sex/Butler/p/book/9780415610155?gclid=Cj0KCQjwzqSWBhDPARIsAK38LY8qB6h2FzpBYFMlcfzKiKmPE1zWEeh0C49TJ2humz9XDRNgpspkiBQaAqJbEALw_wcB
Extended Notes
- For his book, Symptom, Symbol, and the Other of Language, Bret researched the linguistic turn.
- Bret defines the Jungian “nothing-but” attitude.
- Queer theory and gender identity theory would be impossible without poststructuralism and the particular understanding of language it inaugurated.
- In their malleable state, young people may believe they have been misled into a different narrative.
- A death-rebirth motif runs through the discourse of what it means to be transgender.
- In the context of gender, something can be literally false yet metaphorically true.
- The body is a language itself and how physical characteristics are used to communicate who we are.
- Animals that are sexually dimorphic also exhibit differences in behavior.
- Bret details Prometheanism and its place in gender ideology.
- The issue with deifying an idea.
- Bret describes how he moves past the jargon of the internet during therapy.
- Jung’s active imagination technique for internalized transphobia.
- It is normal for teens to radically change the way they present themselves to the world.
- Bret contends that gender identity theory and queer theory are not sustainable.
- How knowing more than one language translates into a different mindset.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to gender, a wider lens. |
| 0:04.0 | I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland. |
| 0:06.5 | And I'm Sasha Ayad, an adolescent therapist in the United States. |
| 0:10.6 | Since 2016, my practice has been exclusively dedicated to gender questioning teens |
| 0:16.1 | and families impacted by gender dysphoria. |
| 0:19.0 | I also work with gender questioning teenagers and I facilitated support meetings for families and |
| 0:24.2 | individuals who have been impacted by gender issues. We're curious about the |
| 0:28.0 | concept of gender and how it's unfolding in the wider culture. Join us as we look at gender through a wider lens. |
| 0:37.8 | Brett Alderman is a writer and life coach |
| 0:39.8 | who works with gender questioning teens and their parents. He received his PhD in |
| 0:44.0 | depth psychology from the Pacifica Graduate Institute in 2012. His book, |
| 0:49.0 | Symptoms, Symbol, and The Other of Language, a Youngian interpretation of the linguistic turn, is an attempt |
| 0:56.1 | to understand postmodernism and specifically its intense preoccupation with language from |
| 1:01.8 | the perspective informed by the work of Carl Young. |
| 1:05.4 | This work, in turn, has led him to an interest in queer theory and its relationship to earlier |
| 1:10.2 | first generation postmodernist thinkers. Brett's insights into postmodernism |
| 1:15.6 | and poststructuralist thinking provides a really rich platform for us today where we try to |
| 1:20.4 | get a grip with gender ideology. |
| 1:23.0 | In this fascinating conversation, he explains this linguistic turn |
| 1:26.8 | and other youngian concepts like ideological possessions |
| 1:30.1 | and the archetypes. |
| 1:31.7 | Perhaps most importantly, Brett tells us why a statement can be literally |
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