Welcome to the Choose Hard Podcast. I'm your host Cody McBroom. I am a father, husband, entrepreneur, and coach. And with me today, I have Dr. Katie DeBrowski, who is a physical therapist, but so much more than that when we really start to unpack her story, her journey, her career and what she does with her clients out of Old Bowl Athletics out in Miami, Florida.

This is a really, really fun conversation and really productive in educational conversation

because we dive into her journey, which stems from everything from being a collegiate

rower and a trainer, strength training, neuroscience, psychology, then going into physical

therapy and working with patients to get them out of pain,

and taking a pretty unconventional, but literally so simple approach, which was one of the coolest

things is how great their results are. They're expanding and opening up new locations,

so they're obviously amazing at what they do, but they take a very, very simple approach.

So we're going to talk about how your psychology, your neuroscience, your body, your athletics, your history, your movement, your environment, everything plays a role in the pain you experience and how to get out of pain that you have from training or from the injuries you've experienced that are keeping you from training in the gym. Again, you're going to have a really good time listening this.

I had a blast talking with her, and you were going to learn a ton.

So without any further ado, let's talk to the one and only, Dr. Katie Debrowski.

The greatest things in life all start with a challenge.

You must accept that everything is hard before it gets easy.

Everything you want in life begins with a hard path. All right. I am excited for this. Now, I might butcher it. I'm just going to, I'm going to just go for it. I might be okay with it, Dr. Katie Debrowski. That's perfect. Yes. I've done enough intros now where I'm like, okay, I'm somewhat comfortable.

But I'm really excited about this.

You are somebody, we've mentioned this to each other multiple times where like mutual friends, I keep seeing and popping up and people in the industry that we know.

And it's what's so cool about this industry.

And it also makes me go, how the hell have I not heard of her prior to this? I know, you know, I felt the same when we connected. I was like, this doesn't even seem possible that our paths haven't crossed yet. But I'm happy that they are now. Yeah, me too. And I loved, I heard you on a podcast and I just, I loved everything you were about. And it was crazy because I'm listening and I'm like, I love the way she approaches training, but also physical

therapy. And then you're, I think you had just gotten back from Seattle when you were on the

podcast or something. And I was like, what the hell? Like if I wouldn't know. And, uh, and then I'm

looking at your pictures. I went to your Instagram. I'm sorry, pictures. And it was like what the hell like if I wouldn't know and and then I'm looking at your

pictures I went to your Instagram so your pictures and it was like you were talking about the

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