787 - Octagonal Relations feat. Karim Zidan (12/4/23)

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🗓️ 5 December 2023

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Sports journalist Karim Zidan returns to the show to catch up with Felix about the world of combat sports and their attendant politics. They discuss responses to Israel/Gaza in the MMA world, developments in Saudi Arabia’s use of sports for soft power, political use of fight sports in Chechnya, and the deep bromance between Dana White and Donald Trump. Find Karim's writing at: https://www.sportspolitika.news/ Follow Karim at: https://twitter.com/ZidanSports Prod note: we’re putting out two public episodes today, partially to re-align the episode numberings to keep Monday eps even and Thursday eps odd. Obviously something only I care about, but also just letting you know to expect a regular Patreon ep this Thursday.

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0:00.0	The All I'm going to be easy to jump. Sports. You're a pass.
0:24.7	We're not in a problem.
0:27.0	A problem. They're going to be a big show.
0:31.0	Sports.
0:34.0	They're a past time for some, lifestyle for others.
0:37.0	For most of our listeners, they are the thing that the normal members of their families watch while they're editing the Assassin's Creed
0:45.5	wiki during Thanksgiving. But beyond that, they're a vital tool for Statecraft. In a long overdue and much requested returned, we are joined today by Karim Zadun, who has written
0:58.3	extensively on the many connections between sports, international politics, the use of sports by malign state actors, and the new
1:06.1	forms of diplomacy emerging from modern trends in sports investment.
1:10.5	Kareem, thank you for joining us today.
1:12.5	Well, hey Felix, I can't believe it's been five years, I think, since the last time I've been on Chappo.
1:18.0	Can you believe that?
1:19.0	Yeah, holy shit.
1:20.0	I was like, when I was putting our notes together I was like looking up your last
1:24.9	appearance on the patreon it was fucking 2017 oh my god six years ago okay yeah
1:31.7	it like made me feel old. I was like,
1:35.0	fuck, how? I felt like more recent than that.
1:40.0	I don't think so much has happened since then. Like while I was running the questions, I was like,
1:50.0	holy shit, I can't ask him to recap like six years of Katerov.
1:54.1	Like we'd be here all day.
1:56.3	Oh yeah, we really would be.
2:00.3	Well, um, we will get to that eventually, but Karim, since you, you write a lot about sports
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