I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson.

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Hi, my name is Penn Gillette.

Not only listening, I'm a guest.

I'm a pen and teller, and I am the fourth listener.

And I am the fourth listener.

And that must make me at least the fourth listener.

It's Dogma Debate with your host, Michael Regillio.

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And welcome to what promises to be just such an informative, good episode of dogma debate,

because I have Professor Sandy Tolan here with me.

And you might recognize the name Sandy Tolan because he's been doing a lot of writing

recently, including a fantastic article in Rolling Stone that just came out entitled,

Trump's claims of anti-Semitism are about bringing universities to their knees.

And I couldn't agree more.

And it's stuff that we've talked about and how galling it is that the Trump administration would

scream anti-Semitism with all that they've got going on.

But that said, Professor Sandy Tolan, welcome to dog debate.

Michael, thanks for inviting me.

I appreciate it.

Yeah, and you were just telling me you actually had another piece in The Guardian as well.

Yeah, a couple weeks before that, I mean, actually I've written, I counted them about seven pieces in the last year, ever since the Los Angeles Police Department descended on our peaceful protesting students.

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