This is everyday driver where we know cars are expensive and necessary and have to do a world of things.

But we also believe they should be fun.

Whatever you need and can't afford, we're here to help you find the right car.

Or your car friends, your car therapist, and sometimes the bad influence you need.

I'm Paul, I'm Todd, and this is the Car debate.

Hello everybody. Happy Tuesday. We're back in the studio. We have a topic Tuesday.

We have some news up front. We have lots of audience questions. There's a car debate at the back.

It's a big podcast. We got to dive right in.

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You want a cow on your car shirt? Of course you do.

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A couple of bits of news to cover that have happened since our last podcast.

And I want to step carefully because we're going to get into a topic that gets,

we get a lot of email, no matter which side of the topic we come down on.

And that is the coming reality of electric cars.

Now all of you out there, you're living in somewhere that between 2030 and roughly 2040,

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