783: How to Take Back Your Evenings, with Guy Winch
Coaching for Leaders
Dave Stachowiak
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 18 May 2026
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Guy Winch: Mind Over Grind
Guy Winch is a psychologist and bestselling author who advocates for integrating the science of emotional health into our daily lives. His TED talks have attracted over 35 million views, and his books have been translated into more than 30 languages. He is co-host of the Ambie-nominated Dear Therapists podcast and the author of the book Mind Over Grind: How to Break Free When Work Hijacks Your Life (Amazon, Bookshop)*.
Some of our parents got to work in the morning, put in a full day, and then by dinner time, didn’t think about work or do it until the next morning. That’s not reality for a lot of us today, so in this conversation, Guy and I explore what you can do to take back your evenings.
Key Points
- Most work stress isn’t experienced at work.
- Healthy thinking is intentional and leads us somewhere useful. Unhealthy thinking (rumination) isn’t intentional and tends to repeat the same script. It feels more like unpaid work.
- To interrupt rumination outside of work, first label it and then associate it with disgust, disdain, and annoyance. Treat it like you would a skunk sitting next to you on the couch.
- Rituals help our brains make a distinction between time to work and time to recover. Rituals are most powerful when they invoke one or more of our five senses to signal a shift to our brains.
- Often we think of relaxation and recovery the same way our grandparents did who often did more manual work. Work today tends to be more mental and emotional, so indexing on ways to engage physically during recovery times is helpful.
- Rather than just assuming that doing nothing, sitting on a beach, or seeing the sights is the best vacation, consider engaging in the things you love that you normally don’t get to do.
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| 0:00.0 | You know that 9 to 5 work schedule that some of our parents had? |
| 0:04.2 | Go to work in the morning, put in a full day, and then by dinner time, don't think that much about work and certainly don't do any work until the next day. |
| 0:13.4 | Well, that's not my reality either. |
| 0:16.2 | And in this conversation, what you can do to take back your evenings. This is Coaching for Leaders, |
| 0:22.9 | episode 783. Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential. |
| 0:34.6 | Greetings to you from Orange County, California. This is Coaching for Leaders, and I'm your host, Dave Stahoviac. |
| 0:42.4 | Leaders are born. They're made. And this weekly show helps leaders thrive at key inflection points. |
| 0:49.9 | And I think about that word thrive. I think about how much we think about it in the context, at least |
| 0:55.2 | I do and the work we're doing here on the podcast in the context of work and helping us to |
| 1:00.0 | thrive in the workplace. And I am often reminded of how work is not contained to the number |
| 1:07.9 | of hours a day that we are quote unquote at work. Oftentimes work bleeds |
| 1:12.7 | into our evenings. Today, a conversation on how we can take our evenings back a bit, how we can |
| 1:20.1 | really frame work in the best way, and how we can actually thrive and have work, not take over |
| 1:26.7 | our life, but enhance it in so many wonderful |
| 1:28.6 | ways. And I'm so pleased to welcome an expert's going to help guide us so beautifully in this |
| 1:32.7 | conversation. Guy Wynch is a psychologist and best-selling author who advocates for integrating |
| 1:38.4 | the science of emotional health into our daily lives. His TED Talks have attracted over 35 million views, and his books |
| 1:45.8 | have been translated into more than 30 languages. He is co-host of the Amby-nominated |
| 1:50.6 | Dear Therapist's podcast and author of the new book, Mind Over Grind, How to Break Free |
| 1:57.2 | When Work Hijacks Your Life. Guy, such a pleasure to have you on. |
| 2:01.4 | Thank you very much for having me. |
| 2:03.2 | You write in the book, I'm quoting you, |
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