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Not only listening, I'm a guest.

I'm a pen and teller, and I am the fourth listener.

And I am the fourth listener.

And that must make me at least the fourth listener.

It's Dogma Debate with your host, Michael Regillio.

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And welcome to what absolutely pops, positively promises to be a fantastic episode of dogma debate,

because I have none other than former Tea Party

Congressman turned never Trumper Joe Walsh with me. Joe, thanks so much for joining.

Hey, Michael, it's great to be with you. I mean it. Thank you, brother.

Absolutely. You and I had a great conversation here in LA. I guess I was just over a week ago now.

And I mean, it's amazing. We are so separated where you are still a Republican. I'm a Bernie Sanders-esque Democrat. And yet I felt almost nothing but agreement with you throughout the entire conversation. Trump has just pushed us to a place where the important issues are so salient and the

ones that we need to talk about immediately, just all agreement.

And we can only hope that someday we'll get into the nitty gritty about everything else.

Like, do you believe we're trying, we're here to save the republic? Is that the, is that where we're at as Americans?

I, and let me just make one correction, Michael.

Still a Tea Party conservative.

Right.

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