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But here, in this Costa coffee date, everything slows.

Just a pair of hands held together and another holding mugs.

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It's more than a latte.

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Watch the numbers plummet next week.

I used to say grotescue instead of grotesque. I know I'm going to get hatred for that.

It's gross. Frank Walter Steinmey and Anna and his wife Elkie Budenbender. Do you think the left are instinctively less patriotic than the right?

No. Well, I think parts of the left are. I think the sort of Islington and intelligentsia left are.

I don't think the normal sort of Labour voter in Barnsley is, in fact,

quite the contrary. In fact, you'll find a lot of working-class labour voters, I think, outpatriot,

many Conservatives. But remember, there's now intersectionality between those old-school labour

voters and those who now vote reform. There is, exactly. And that's why they, those are the ones that are likely to drift.

He hits his mic with indignation so early on.

They're the ones that might well be more likely to go to reform.

We're going to be discussing this later on in the pod.

Also, for those who are not fond of reform really terrifying levels of donation biggest

amount of money given to a political party by a living donor has just entered the reform

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