And when you get them alone and you ask them what is your biggest interest in being here, they'll tell you, I'm scared to death to fly.

And what if my husband passes out and I'm up there all by myself?

And we teach them because the Cirrus has a parachute on board.

We teach them how to go through the basic safety things they need to do to announce their

problem on the radio, to cage the engine and pull the shoot, to save everybody's lives

on board the airplane.

And they love it.

Hello, and thank you for joining us for episode 78 of the Aviation News Talk

podcast for a newsmaker's edition, where we talk to people who are making the news.

I'm your host, Max Ruscott.

Last year in episode 20, we talked with the president of the American Bonanza Society.

And today I'll be sitting down with the president of another aircraft type club, Roger Whittier, who heads Copa, the Cirrus Owner Pilots

Association. We'll be talking about the role that aviation type clubs play in general,

and then we'll talk specifically about Copa in their M16 event coming up next weekend in Las

Vegas. And finally, Roger will help answer a listener question.

But first, if you're new to the show, we have a weekly show that shares pilot safety

tips and general aviation news and helps connect you as part of a broader community that's

championing general aviation around the world.

Last week, we talked about 20 things your CFI didn't teach you as a student pilot.

If you missed it, please check

out episode 77. And later this week, you can hear interviews and listener questions from the

AOPA original fly-in that was held this past weekend in Carbondale, Illinois. And after the show,

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