Here's another installment of Grimarica goes to the Paradise Symposium of 2014 in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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Welcome back to the Grand America Show.

We're at the Paradise Symposium 2014 on the Saturday, October, I don't know, fourth or something like that.

And we've got E-frame Palermo here again with this, but we've also got Barry Fitzgerald.

He was lecturing yesterday, and welcome to the show very much lance thanks for having me

on we had heard lots of good feedback from your show so how you enjoying the

symposium so far I'm loving it I'm loving the the crossover of of of different ideas and different research paths because you know I'm

primarily I'm really I suppose a pigeonholed into the paranormal world.

And to get the opportunity to take my research and bring it forward to guys here

who are following different paths and find that we have got commonalities between

them all, it really does give us a broader picture of possibly what was going on back in

the day.

Isn't it weird how all that all that should just seem to line up, eh?

Especially when you come to some place like this is when you really notice it.

And I imagine like it's almost like you need, you should have like the pre-

symposium so all you guys can get together and just show each other your

presentations and then you could like build off that and have that could be the

whole final day. Yeah you know it was just this morning I met up with one of the lecturers and they were telling me about Peru.

And for us, back in Ireland, we knew that the entity known as the black dog, this I suppose in Christianity, it became demonized, that this huge black dog with red eyes was one of the the guardians to the

other world and these keepers of the doorway and then she she she shows me a

picture from Peru showing this dog entity which is also associated with with extra animals that we were aware of an animal are in Ireland that were connected on the

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