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Hey there, folks.

Welcome.

I love etiquette.

And so I leapt at the possibility of having today's guest on the podcast.

Her name is Allison Shepardack.

She's written a new book called Was It Something I Said, Everyday Etiquette, How to Avoid Upward Moments, Etc, et cetera, Alison, welcome. Thank you. I'm delighted to be here. I really do

love etiquette. Now, you actually teach etiquette at the White House. I do. You do? Yes. How did you get a gig like that, Alison? I worked in the White House in President Trump's first term. I worked in the West Wing as assistant staff secretary. And etiquette was something I was always very interested in. It started when my husband and I were engaged to be married when I was 22 years old. And I had all these wedding etiquette questions that I didn't know the answer to. So I got myself my first etiquette book thinking that I would just turn to the pages that had the answers that I was looking for. And I found myself reading that first book cover to cover and countless books since then. And at the time, I was working as a television news reporter and anchor, and then I went to law

school, and I'm practicing law, and then I'm working in government, and I continued this

independent study. I ended up getting a certification in British and North American etiquette

just for my own personal growth. British and North America, that's extra credit etiquette.

That's, I would think. That's really, that's an extraordinary idea.

But so, I'm interrupting you, so you got a degree in etiquette.

Yeah, a certification through a program that offers it in the U.S. and in Britain.

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