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Greetings friends, it's Chapo back again on this Monday, November 6th, and just going to get

right into it today. Felix and I are joined by a long-time friend of the show, Derek Davidson.

Derek, welcome back.

Thanks for having me guys, always happy to do it.

Wish it was under different circumstances, but...

Yeah, get ready for a fun episode I guess Derek Derek I'd like to

let you begin here and you're a guy who's you know in your career of

observing Empire and foreign policy, I just want to ask you to

start thinking about, have you ever seen anything like what we're seeing now in terms of

like a US and its ally doing something like what Israel is doing to

Gaza right now? I mean the answer I have to say is no you know obviously we've

seen the US do some terrible things the US and its allies did terrible things in the 1980s.

I mean, I am an old so I go back that far, but was a kid so you know give me some slack but I it's it's a

combination of things it's not just the brutality of what Israel is doing and the

complete and we could talk about, I think we're

going to talk about this later, but the complete just disinterest in using any of the

considerable leverage that the US has to try and minimize the brutality, let alone, you know, to stop it or give it a pause or anything like that.

It's also the fact that everybody's like thrown in the towel on even trying to plausibly explain any of this to people.

They're just like, yeah, this is what's happening. I mean, the efforts at like covering up or obfus skating or creating a justification for all

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