Hey everybody.

Welcome to Peak Shade.

It's Thursday. That means Shades of

Bravo and I'm so lucky because I have my friend here, Ryan Bailey, to talk about

Vanderbilt Pump Rules in the Valley.

Ryan, you're the expert.

I'm so glad you're you.

So sad that I'm the act.

This is I true.

This is really probably the only thing that I might be an expert on

and that's like the saddest thing to be an expert on but it is it is truly

weird like I was I was on sheena's podcast yesterday I think it comes out right it comes out Friday and I was you but it's like I was having these

moments where I was explaining the show to Sheena and really like I would be like

Sheena you know the joke comes out at the reunion, right?

And I'm like, oh, of course you do, you're Sheena.

Like it's so interesting to look at these shows from a different perspective and then to like,

you know, like the the other when we were at

Jackson's Bar to actually see them in person and have a conversation with them and

then you're like well the show presents it this way you talk to them they presented

another way and then all of us podcasters and Reddit threads

and Instagram posts, it's all presented another way.

So it's like what I've kind of deemed as 360 viewing

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