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The Southern Outdoorsmen Hunting Podcast

774 - Most Turkey Hunters are Missing This Skill | Lamar Williams

The Southern Outdoorsmen Hunting Podcast

Andrew Maxwell & Jacob Myers

Sports, Wilderness

4.9 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2026

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

For decades, Lamar Williams has been quietly shaping the world of custom turkey calls. But outside of tight circles of call makers and serious turkey hunters, most people have never heard his story. Lamar started chasing turkeys in the 1960s — long before turkey hunting exploded in popularity. Over the years he became a respected custom call maker, building calls that serious hunters seek out across the country. But if you expect this conversation to be about gear… you’re going to be surprised. According to Lamar, buying more calls won’t make you a better turkey hunter. What actually matters is something most modern hunters overlook. Woodsmanship. In this episode, Lamar shares lessons learned from over 50 years of hunting wild turkeys, including how fall hunting teaches you more about turkey behavior than most hunters ever learn, why gobblers often won’t come back when you call, and the skills that separate consistently successful hunters from everyone else. If you want to understand turkeys — not just call at them — this conversation is packed with hard-earned wisdom. In this episode we discuss: • Why woodsmanship matters more than turkey calls • Lessons from  fall turkey hunting • Why gobblers often won’t come back when you call • How to understand turkey travel patterns and terrain • The story behind Lamar’s custom turkey calls • Why experience in the woods still beats gadgets This episode is a masterclass in old-school turkey hunting knowledge. If you enjoy learning from hunters who have spent a lifetime in the woods, you’ll love this one. Got a question for the show? Submit a listener Q&A form - https://l.linklyhq.com/l/1uMXP Get a discount on your Poncho Outdoors shirts here - https://linkly.link/2bfPZ Grab some Southern Outdoorsmen merch here - https://l.linklyhq.com/l/1u4aK Join Woodsman Wire - https://l.linklyhq.com/l/1u4aR Use the promo code “southern” for a discount on your OnX Hunt membership here - https://l.linklyhq.com/l/1tyfm Check out Latitude Outdoors for your mobile hunting gear - https://2ly.link/1zVDI Use code TSOP15 for a discount on Mossy Oak - https://linkly.link/2ERb8 Save 10% on your next Vortex Optics order at eurooptic.com using the Promo Code “southern10” - https://2ly.link/1wyYO Use code SOUTHERN20 for a discount on all Vortex apparel, including eyewear Have you tagged a deer using something you heard on the show? Submit your listener success story here - Share Your Story Here Come chat with us on our Thursday Hunter Hangouts! Join our Patreon - https://l.linklyhq.com/l/1uMXU NOTE: Not all advertisements run on this show are endorsed by The Southern Outdoorsmen Podcast unless an ad is read by one of the hosts.  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, one feature you need to be using this spring is compass mode on Onex Hunt on your Onyx Hunt app.

0:06.0

Basically what compass mode is, is when you click on it, it orients your map to whatever direction you're facing and it lays a line straight down the middle of that map with marked yardages.

0:16.0

So what that allows you to do is when you hear a bird gobbling off in the distance, you can turn on compass mode, face the bird, and then it's going to lay a line straight towards where that bird is at, and then you can make an estimate of where you think he is. The way that I like to use it, it's been very helpful for me in pinpointing exactly where a gobbler is probably at. So, for instance, if I had one goblin way back here behind me on these ridges, I could turn, orient, and say, okay, at 450 yards, there's a nice ridge point poking out above like a hub or something. That's probably where that turkey is at. So I can drop a pin on his location, and then I've got a pretty good idea of exactly where he is so that I can read my map and I can look,

0:54.6

hey, do I need to go get up above him? Do I need to come straight at him? Do I need to just stay

0:58.0

right here? Whatever the case may be. So it's a very, very useful tool. I encourage you to try it this spring. It's been really nice for us. And hey, if you want a discount on your Anex Elite membership, use the promo code Southern at onexhunt.com and it's going to get you a 20% discount.

1:12.0

Again, that's promo code Southern.

1:13.8

Y'all make sure you use that code because it helps the show out. Nowhere you stand with OnX Hunt. Y'all have heard us talk about them for years, but one of our favorite turkey gun upgrades is a red dot site. And one of the best red dot sites when it comes to turkey hunting is the viper enclosed red dot from vortex optics now the reason that a red dot is so nice

1:32.4

for turkey hunting is because it opens up your site picture it allows you to

1:35.4

actually see what you're aiming at and you're not covering up the turkey with your

1:39.1

site which is especially helpful with modern ammo like TSS where you're shooting a

1:43.4

pretty tight pattern.

1:44.5

One reason that the Viper enclosed red dot is so nice is because it has that enclosed design.

1:49.2

So it's very, very durable, resistant to the elements, and it has a universal mount built right

1:54.3

into the site.

1:55.7

So it's just four screws, screw it down onto your shotgun, boom, you're good to go.

1:59.2

The Viper enclosed red dot is available with a red or a green dot,

2:03.5

and they have one that's finished in the South's favorite camo, mossy Oak Bottomland.

2:07.8

So y'all go check them out.

2:08.9

That is the Viper shotgun enclosed red dot from Vortex Optics.

2:13.8

Y'all check it out at vortexoptics.com.

2:16.9

One of the most common questions we get is from people who are looking to get into mobile white tail hunting. They're looking at saddles, but they don't know which one to get. They don't know how to get comfortable in a saddle. And I always recommend the Lone Star Saddle from Latitude Outdoors. One thing you'll hear from a lot of people when they first get into saddle hunting is they deal with a little bit of hip pinch. That's just basically where you don't have your saddle adjusted right. And so it's kind of pinching your hips when you're sitting in the tree. It's really uncomfortable. It can take some fine tune in to get a lot of saddles right where they're comfortable to sit in. But with that Lone Star saddle, it has a hip pinch reduction system built into the saddle. Basically what that means is that right out of the box this thing's gonna be very very comfortable

2:54.1

Whether you're doing a quick early season bow hunt or if you're planning on sitting in that joker all day long in the rut

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