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Welcome to The Other People Show.

My name is Brad Listy, and I am in Los Angeles, California.

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It's good to be with you.

Today on the program, my guest is Catherine Miles,

author of a new book called Trailed, One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah murders.

I mean, every investigator that I talked to relating to this case can recite you chapter and verse details about these young women's lives.

And they've since forged really powerful relationships

with their families. So these investigators are hugely emotionally invested. But I think sometimes

that emotional investment clouds us in ways we don't even realize it does. That was Catherine Miles,

author of a new book called Trailed, One Woman's Quest to

solve the Shenandoah murders. Trailed is a riveting and disturbing book in the true crime

genre. It's a deep dive journalistic investigation into the murders of Lolly Wynens and Julie Williams,

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