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Ken Coleman, welcome to the What's A Central Podcast.

Well, it's good to be with you, man. I'm a big fan of your work and always love talking with you.

I just was reading an article today called The Great Resignation is finally getting companies

to take burnout seriously. Is it enough? What are your thoughts about this, about the role that

the Great Resignation is having on individuals, on companies, right now, in terms of them figuring

out how to help their people and people feeling the need to design their careers more thoughtfully?

Yeah, that's a great question because I think this is a huge emergency alarm going off for leaders.

People are leaving companies and droves, and then leaders are having a hard time attracting

people to come to them. And you're seeing all this come together in such a unique time in

history. And I think that the wake-up call for leaders is, is this burnout thing? It's kind of

like being in a movie theater. Have you ever been a movie theater, or in a church setting, or a

large congregation? Of course, this is pre-COVID, because this is pre-community out. But one person

would cough, or one person gets up to go to the bathroom, and then over the next three to five

minutes, you see a lot of people doing this, and they'll get up. And that's a real thing. There's

a phenomenon there. It's kind of the mirroring. And I think with so many people talking about burnout,

and also experiencing burnout, now all of a sudden there's a heightened awareness, mental health

days is like a thing. That wasn't even a thing five years ago. And so what's happening is with COVID,

forcing all of this change on people, forced change. We as humans don't like change. And all of a

sudden everything changed. And it was we were forced to do it. We didn't have a chance to consider

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