Hey everybody, welcome to another edition of 10 Gently Speaking. I'm Chris Ryan, your host.

This week's guest is Troy Mitchell, who was a bank robber. Now he's a yoga teacher. Go

figure. Really interesting guy. As you can imagine, his experience of life has been wide

ranging and deep and he's gracious and generous and kind enough to share his experience with us

this week. So I'm really appreciative of that. And I think we had a very interesting conversation

that you'll enjoy. But before I get to that, Cassie and I are just back from shooting a porn

movie in San Francisco. That's right. Add it to my resume. I have now been in a porn movie.

It'll fit fit in really well with all my other qualifications. The story is that a friend of mine

is making a film. He's made films before. And this time he wanted to do something really special,

sort of bridging the gap between a so-called mainstream cinema and neurotic cinema,

which has been done before. There was a film in Manuel, I remember when I was young,

that sort of had pretensions to be mainstream cinema, but had sex in it.

Steven Soderberg, great director, has recently done something like that of the girlfriend

experience with Sasha Gray. So people keep trying to bridge this divide between eroticism

and mainstream legitimate cinema, whatever you want to call it, with varying degrees of success

or mostly failure, I'm afraid, which is funny, because we're all living lives that are

all over the place. We're all living lives that have their mainstream elements and their

erotic elements. They're light and dark, they're yin and yang. It's all part of the human experience,

but for some reason, in depicting the human experience, we're extremely comfortable with

talking about the darkness of violence and murder, but not the juiciness of sexuality.

That's all got to be compartmentalized over in one area. A couple of years ago, I found myself in

the office of one of the founders of HBO in New York. Strange story, because I didn't really know who

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