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An Old Timey Podcast

77: The Ann & Abby Feud Goes Intergenerational (Part 4)

An Old Timey Podcast

An Old Timey Podcast

True Crime, History, Comedy

4.91.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2025

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

In the final episode of our series on Ann Landers and Dear Abby, the feud reached new heights when Abby fell victim to a “gotcha” moment on Charlie Rose. (Who woulda guessed?) Afterward, she agreed to an interview with Ladies’ Home Journal. In it, she said awful things about Ann. Years later, when Ann died, the feud went intergenerational between the sisters’ two daughters — daughters who became, you guessed it, advice columnists.

Remember, kids, history hoes always cite their sources! For this episode, Kristin pulled from:
The book “Dear Ann, Deary Abby: The Unauthorized Biography of Ann Landers and Abigail Van Buren” by Jan Pottker and Bob Speziale
“Twin lovelorn advisers torn asunder by success,” by Paul O’Neil for Life Magazine
The book, “The Best of Ann Landers: Her Favorite Letters of All Time,” by Ann Landers
The book, “The Best of Dear Abby,” by Abigail Van Buren
“Pauline Phillips, better known as ‘Dear Abby,’ dies at 94,” Washington Post
“Ann Landers, advice giver to the millions, is dead at 83,” by Margalit Fox for the New York Times
“The rivalry of Dear Abby and Ann Landers,” by Melissa Baron for BookRiot.com
“Landers’ death renews family feud,” South Florida Sun Sentinel
“Pauline Phillips, longtime Dear Abby advice dies at 94,” by Michael Martinez for CNN
“Columnists/ daughters carry on the feud,” by Beverly Beyette for the Los Angeles Times
“Competition between Iowa sisters who penned Dear Abby, Ann Landers fueled advice columns,” Des Moines Register

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0:00.0

Hear ye, hear ye.

0:03.4

You are listening to an old-timey podcast.

0:07.0

I'm Kristen Caruso.

0:08.4

And I'm Norman Caruso.

0:09.4

And on this episode, the feud between Anne Landers and Dear Abbey goes intergenerational.

0:16.9

Oh my gosh.

0:17.7

So the kids are getting involved now.

0:19.6

That's right.

0:20.1

They're beefing.

0:20.6

The grandkids. The great grandkids. We don't know about that. The pets.

0:25.6

You keep the pets out of this. Plus, I think Abby only had ceramic monkeys. So we're good.

0:31.4

Well, didn't she have real monkeys at one point? And then they just became too much. And she...

0:35.8

Well, yeah, because monkeys are too much they're

0:38.0

their own thing they should be off on their own i'm sorry to anyone who's listening to this with

0:43.0

their chimpanzee in their lap offending the monkey owning history hose uh Kristen yes did you know

0:52.3

that our listeners can directly support us on Patreon?

0:56.2

Holy crap.

0:57.7

Tell me more.

0:58.8

Well, all they have to do is go to PayPal.com slash Norman Caruso.

1:04.0

No, actually, you can support this small, sexy, independent podcast over on patreon.com slash old-timey podcast.

1:11.4

Hey.

1:12.3

Consider becoming a non-threatening fan for just $5 a month.

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