77 - Do people change?
Seltzer Squad - Staying Sober In The City
Kate Zander
4.9 • 778 Ratings
🗓️ 15 May 2020
⏱️ 17 minutes
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In this episode Jes and Kate discuss change. Do people actually change? Or are we just growing? But wait, isn’t growth a form of change? But if we are constantly growing in recovery are we constantly changing? Gahhhh life’s big questions lol. Listen to what they have to say about it. Kind of like Bridesmaids, but, ya know, sober.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Seltzer Squad, the podcast about staying sober in the city with your host, Kate Sander and Jess Valentine. |
| 0:19.9 | What's up, Kate? Hi, Jess. How are you? I'm good. Yeah. I've been thinking a little bit about |
| 0:28.3 | sobriety, about other people in sobriety, about people not in sobriety. And just as I turned |
| 0:35.4 | another birthday recently, I'm thinking, do you think that people change? |
| 0:40.7 | Do you think people can change? Yes. Short answer, yes? I do. Because I've changed. Right. |
| 0:47.6 | So I think so. I think I'm a completely different. I get what you're saying, though. I'm a completely |
| 0:52.2 | different person than I was like 10 years ago. |
| 0:54.6 | Yep. |
| 0:54.8 | But I'm still me. |
| 0:56.3 | This is reminding me of that, not the episode, that scene in bridesmaids where, do you |
| 1:01.2 | know what I'm talking about? |
| 1:01.7 | She's like, what? |
| 1:03.1 | Yeah. |
| 1:03.7 | Like, Kristen Wigg is like, I don't think that people can change. |
| 1:08.5 | And then she's like, I think people are changing all the time. |
| 1:11.5 | She's like, yeah, but if you're always changing, then are you really changing? I don't think you're |
| 1:15.5 | changing at all if that's the way you are. Exactly. Like that whole thing. No, you're totally right. |
| 1:20.3 | With Rose or Lillian, I should say. I do think that people can change. I think that you have to work on yourself, though. I think that I've changed for the better. |
| 1:29.3 | I think you have to be in pain enough to force a change. Like I remember when we interviewed |
| 1:34.4 | Laura McAwan and she was like, I don't, pain is a big motivator for me. I have to really be in a lot |
| 1:40.2 | of pain to make a move. And I think too, right, like I think about myself, I've changed a lot. |
| 1:45.7 | It's all been pretty much self-motivated for the most part. I think that people don't change |
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