It's time for episode 77 of the Clockwise podcast from Relay FM recorded Wednesday, March the 4th, 2015.

Clockwise, four people, four technology topics, 30 minutes.

Welcome back to Clockwise, the Tech Podcast, where time is always marching forth.

I'm your co-host, Dan Moran, and I'm joined across this Fair Nation, as I am every week, by Jason Snow.

Hi, Dan. How's it going?

It's going okay. How's it going with you out there? And is it sunny in California?

It's sunny. Sunny and nice. Sorry. Well, that is just great. We're joined by two excellent guests, as we are every week. To my left is Wired's own Christina Bonington. Hi, Christina.

Hello. Welcome back. Thank you. And to my left is Slovenia's own

Anjé Tomic. Hello. I'm actually from Slovakia. No, that's my. I'm so close. I'm moved to

Slovenia and moved to Slovenia and just so Jason would get his podcast intro wrong. We're going to talk about four tech topics today, and since I got to introduce the show, I guess I have to go first.

It's the rules.

It is the rules.

I don't make the rules.

I just follow them.

So I was thinking the other day about encryption because I've been reading a lot about security flaws, and of course there's been a lot of talk about encryption in the news with everybody from the FBI director and even the president weighing in on thoughts on

encryption and how that affects law enforcement and the like. I don't do much additional security,

you know, take additional security precautions. I've even done stupid things like sending my

social security number over the internet so I can get paid by my fine employers.

I'm curious to know if you guys take any extra precautions when you're sending sensitive data or do you just either sort of rely on, you know, what's built into software area, whether it be browsers or mail clients or whether you just also have sort of assumed that it's a lost cause. So how do you

approach security in this digital day and age? Christina? Yeah, so I'm kind of with you there.

I probably don't do as much as I should in terms of encryption. I mean, in terms of personal security,

you know, I have two-factor authentication on a lot of apps and services. But yeah, I have

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