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The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström®: Expert Mode Marketing Technology, AI, & CX

#769: Zoom CMO Kim Storin on why growth problems are often brand problems

The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström®: Expert Mode Marketing Technology, AI, & CX

The Agile Brand

Business, Marketing

52.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

In a world obsessed with conversion rates and customer acquisition costs, have we forgotten the one thing that actually makes both of them better?Agility requires more than just the ability to react quickly to market signals. It demands a stable, strategic core—a brand—that provides the necessary context and direction to ensure your pivots are purposeful, not just panicked. Today, we're going to talk about a fundamental truth that many organizations are wrestling with: what looks like a growth problem is often a brand problem. When acquisition costs are climbing and churn is a constant threat, the default response is often to double down on performance marketing. But in crowded markets, that's a race to the bottom. We’ll explore why brand is the ultimate lever for creating sustainable demand, pricing power, and the kind of loyalty that performance channels simply can't buy. To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Kimberly Storin, CMO at Zoom. About Kim Storin Kimberly Storin is the CMO at Zoom, where she leads global marketing and communications. Prior to Zoom, Kim held marketing leadership roles at various tech companies, from SaaS start-ups to Fortune 50 companies, and was an M&A consultant at Deloitte earlier in her career.  She lives in Austin, is deeply involved with the Austin philanthropic community through the Austin Community Foundation, and serves on the Advisory Board for Women in Revenue. Kim Storin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberlystorin/ Resources Zoom: www.zoom.us The Agile Brand podcast is brought to you by TEKsystems. Learn more here: https://www.teksystems.com/versionnextnow Catch the future of e-commerce at eTail Palm Springs, Feb 23-26 in Palm Springs, CA. Go here for more details: https://etailwest.wbresearch.com/ Connect with Greg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregkihlstromDon't miss a thing: get the latest episodes, sign up for our newsletter and more: https://www.theagilebrand.showCheck out The Agile Brand Guide website with articles, insights, and Martechipedia, the wiki for marketing technology: https://www.agilebrandguide.com The Agile Brand is produced by Missing Link—a Latina-owned strategy-driven, creatively fueled production co-op. From ideation to creation, they craft human connections through intelligent, engaging and informative content. https://www.missinglink.company

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0:00.0

The Agile brand.

0:03.0

Welcome to Season 7 of the Agile brand, where we discuss the trends and topics marketing leaders need to know.

0:15.0

Stay curious, stay agile, and join the top enterprise brands and MARTEC platforms as we explore marketing technology, AI, e-commerce, and join the top enterprise brands and Martec platforms as we explore marketing technology,

0:23.1

AI, e-commerce, and whatever's next for the Omnichannel customer experience.

0:27.8

Together we'll discover what it takes to create an agile brand, built for today and tomorrow,

0:32.1

and built for customers, employees, and continued business growth.

0:36.9

I'm your host, Greg Kilstrom, advising Fortune 1,000 brands on Martec, employees, and continued business growth. I'm your host, Greg Kilstrom, advising Fortune 1000 brands on Martec, AI, and marketing operations.

0:43.3

The Agile Brand Podcast is brought to you by Tech Systems, an industry leader in full-stack technology services,

0:49.3

talent services, and real-world application. For more information, go to T-E-K to teK systems.com. To make sure you

0:56.9

always get the latest episodes, please hit subscribe on the app you listen to podcasts on, and leave

1:01.7

us a rating so others can find us as well. And now on to the show. In a world obsessed with

1:08.6

conversion rates and customer acquisition costs, have we forgotten

1:12.0

the one thing that actually makes both of them better?

1:14.8

Agility requires more than just the ability to react quickly to market signals.

1:18.9

It demands a stable, strategic core, a brand that provides the necessary context and direction

1:24.3

to ensure your pivots are purposeful, not just panicked.

1:31.7

Today we're going to talk about a fundamental truth that many organizations are wrestling with.

1:35.0

What looks like a growth problem is often a brand problem.

1:38.7

When acquisition costs are climbing and churn as a constant threat,

1:41.9

the default response is often to double down on performance marketing,

1:44.5

but in crowded markets, that's a race to the bottom. We'll explore why brand is the ultimate lever for creating sustainable demand, pricing

1:49.9

power, and the kind of loyalty that performance channels simply can't buy. Tell me to discuss this

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