We recently published a podcast on The Feather Thief Story, a spectacular felony heist by a person who wanted rare and exotic feathers for fly tying.

The story in the book written by Kirk Wallace Johnson started through a connection to today's guest.

Today's guest is also a guide and expert on the waters of New Mexico,

and today we're going to get you dialed into the hatches and the water that make this part

of the Southern Rockies so unique. This is the Wetfly Swing podcast where I show you the best

places to travel to for fly fishing, how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for

that big drip, and what you can do to get back to the fish species we all love Spencer Syme fly fishing guide and classic fly tires are going to take us

back into the world of the feather thief this crazy amazing story and what his take home

message is on the overall book and the story. We also find out why he loves the

dray catch, why caddus should be on your list and on your radar throughout the year,

and what else he has gone in the fly tying space, including making his own hooks.

Plus, we're going to find out why anglers are wearing helmets fishing the Rio Grande,

and why you can fish it

without touching the water.

Heading into Touse, here he is, Spencer Syme from ziafly.com.

How you doing, Spencer?

Hey, I'm great, Dave.

Thank you for having me on.

Yeah, yeah, this is going to be a fun one today.

I've been on the track of the, a couple of things going. The Feather Thief definitely is we have an episode that's out there now with Kirk Wallace Johnson, who talked about the feather thief. You were a part of that, I think, early on in some of getting Kirk going. We're also going to talk about what you do in New Mexico, some of the famous waters you fish

and guide and kind of all of that.

I think we might have a big New Mexico episode today.

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